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Wade
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My statement was directed towards jeff. sorry for the confusion.
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Mr. Wade...
I raced just about every weekend at CNY and a couple Nationals, plus practiced pretty much every week.
Maybe I know what I am doing on my bike to prevent my tires from getting worn out too fast?
And if you look at all pics, not just of the pros, you will see that there are alot of racers who use the micro's.
So are you saying that the local tracks we race on aren't hard packed? Maybe in your neck of the woods. But not here.
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Get yourself a set of holy rollers or DTHs. Like Nick said, due to the hard pack surfaces we ride on, larger surface area would probably be more beneficial than knobbies. Heck, The Intense Hellfires even seem like decent tires. They are patterned like the Halos but have larger knobbies.
I run a larger tire in front than back. I don't like cornering hard and feeling my front tire bouncing and skidding up the turn. I feel that the larger front tire helps to reduce that to some extent. Of course, keeping your tire pressure in the happy zone is just as if not more important than tire size.
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was wondering why u hadent had your holy rollers on at xmas woody... only reason wanna stay away from the halo style tire is when i switched from those to the micros it just rolled forever and ever with so little effort...... and cornered just as well....
sounds like a 1.95 front 1.75 rear is the ideal set up....... would running the dth being a very low profile tire as nick was saying running the 2.1 be something useful... or see if it corners smoothly and then jump up to that?
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With the lower profile park/street tires, you will notice that you can run a 2.1 and it will compare to a 1.95 knobby.
Just like a 1.95 park/street tire will ompare to a 1.75 knobby.
You will just have to compare them.
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oh ok
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DMAC u should run the 1.75 rear and a low profile 2.10 tire on the front its a good setup.
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def got the 1.75 rear... but not sure on front yet.. couldnt find the inflated actual mesurements for other tires beyond the dth.... the dth i know 1.95 front is a 2.05ish inflated size..... so was thinking hey thats the 2.1 that everyones saying so would go with that
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i agree with wade on the pro part. most pros run vsi products which are sinz,intense,the because they get them for free or almost nothing. because vsi is another china company that produces in the mass.
in bmx terms i compare vsi to wal mart. cheaper stuff but not always the best quality.
funny thing about the "sinz" brakes is that you can see the textro stamp right on it.
also for the most part sinz parts are all generic parts with the sinz name stamped on them.
the only good vsi parts is the carbon and alloy forks.
the frames are good too since they are hydroform.
but for frames i would rather run a something other then sinz.
ghp frames are great. i am not just saying this cause my team is co sponsored by them either. ghp is rider owned and all about the rider.
there is a story on vintage were someone cracked the headtube slightly on a ghp at reno found greg hill at reno and greg got them a replacment ghp for free.
now that is something i can stand behind.
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kinda sat to see everyone bashing intense brand...... in mt bike world if u wanna be fast thats one ur only options for free ride or downhill...... anything else just doesnt seem to add up quite the same.... they started out with the m1 and dominated... maybe some parts are genaric so they can have that part produced under their name but on other hand they dont get to the size of a company they are by not having a good product to sell
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Good tires are hard to make. I'm not saying that all the Intense tires are bad, I just know that I ran a couple and they didn't fit as nicely as the Odyssey tires I run now or the Maxxis tires. Maxxis has such a history with tires, they know how to make a nice tire. As for the PLyte tire, if it is rated at that high a PSI, it should be of decent quality.
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i agree with that .... also agree with the micro knobbie having few issues that could be better... i am curious though if its issues because they wanted to make them lighter though... since sidewalls seem to skimp on rubber and maybe the less rubber has to do with its lil less perfectly round design... seems to come off as a very thing rubber coating over the canvas and then the microscopic knobbies ontop to take the wear an grip... thats just my concept of why people are having issues... maxxis has always made amazing tires from back in mt bike days and thats alot of reason i wanna try the dth... holy roller just seemed very bulky to me and thats why i went with micros...
havent used any odyssey products so not sure.. but the intense leaves some to be desired and i just attributed it to weight savings
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its cause micronoobies are made cheap.
with a high mark up since it intense and will sell.
micronobs should be sold for about 10 due to their quality. but go for closer to 20.
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This is getting old.
Everyone knows that most tires are made at a low price. The markup is insane on some of them.
The bashing of Intense is humorous at best.
If the tire was crap, you wouldn't see so many of them out there in the pics. And not just by Pros, which a couple of you seem to think is all that are using them.
Look at pics of the top experts and see what the majority of them are running.
If this tire wasn't holding up, it would lose its marketability and go away. Of which it hasn't.
If you don't like Intense, fine, say that. But if you have never used an Intense tire, then please hold your comments because you don't have a dog in the fight.
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but for frames i would rather run a something other then sinz.
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I have never seen a sinz frame. And the micro knobbies are good and there wicked grippie but i found that they just wear much faster then other tires such as a holly rooller
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I'm not really trying to bash intense, they have good products and just plain crap. they have 2 different podium frames, the ones they sell for 389.00 and then the complete frames. you would think they would be the same but if you compare the two, the complete frames welds are gross and a lot of the time poorly put together. I don't think you should separate quality between overcharging for single frames that are made over seas and complete bikes.
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Way to clarify justin.
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