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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Tri-city track
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Hey I bet everyone is ready to get out riding and tear up the local tracks. I wanted some input on the track and make it better for everyone. I want a track we can be proud of. We don't have a lot of money to start with but I can redo some of the jumps. I want to change the last straight and will listen to all ideas out there. I think the main problem is keeping the surface smooth and the lips even all the way around the track. I look forward to hearing from you the true voice of bmx.
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hey shawn welcome to the bug buddy.... uh...... the triple in the first straight..... yea make that a double or step up or something lol... throw some dirt on the face of it to make it a bit more shallow aswell as a bit on the back side of the double to make that a bit less steep... just thinking it will help with smoothness and ridablity of the track.

as far as u said smoothness is big issue i thought the track was gorgous for the state race... and if we went though and u evened up all the lips of jumps and rounded em off a bit that would be huge start.... as far as the last straight or 2... not sure what to tell ya where to go with them... other than maybe look at something like catamounts rythem and kingstons... not to big very simple yet can develop some skills in it... other can be more help with those 2 straights than i can... but if ur doing the work b4 i get to work def get ahold of me id love to be of some assitance if i can be.

your running track this year or just helpin out?
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject:
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Yeah buddy I was elected for assistant track director. I cant wait to get started on it. Im hoping for a lot of help and ideas from all the riders. I know I won't make everyone happy, but i'm gonna do my best.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject:
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hey its nice to see some effort in changing track design a bit and work on things... i know that they tryed a few changes last year but idk if it helped or not since i wasnt there year b4... ... but aside from those things i mentioned biggest thing i see if just making some  sort of real rythem section on the 5th straight and sorting out the last straight like u mentioned...... and im free fridays though summer usually..... and whenever u need me before april... or middle of april... or whenever they start work
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:42 pm    Post subject:
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Posted this, but for some reason it didn't show up.

I don't think the triple can be changed.  It has some sentimental value to somebody at that track and is therefore tradition.  It could be reshaped, but I think there will always be a triple there.  Not sure what the story is exactly, but Bill knows it, so hit him up.

This is just a suggestion, but I think it would make that track the most fun - and one of the best tracks in the Northeast.

Take out the second turn, or leave it there for that matter, but basically bypass it.  Have hte first turn be a 90 (approximately) and have it run to what is now the third turn.

Make the third turn a touch bigger, and move what is now the fourth straight to the left a touch - add in a pro set to the right side and that place would be the best.

Think about it, you are killing two birds with one stone: you could leave the fourth straight more or less the same, since the jumps are great for the 8-12 year old crowd, and you can also cater to the older guys with some big jumps.

I really think that is a doable change, and it would ramp that place up to National caliber.

I'd be willing to come out and shovel for that one.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject:
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yup reshaping it a bit........ a big scoop out of the front or back and placed on opposite end :-p  just seems way to short to be a proper triple

the idea of cutting out second turn isnt bad idea.... maybe make a short curved straight to tie it in with the freshly paved first turn....... maybe a table or roller an step up/step down and that 3rd turn really sucks right now very very sharp so to get national level that would have to be replaced
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject:
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I just think the track currently has too many turns.  The racing gets strung out and there is sooooo much space there to be used.  I feel like they are shortchanging themselves without a pro section.

Also, invest in some tarps and save yourselves a ton of work.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject:
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yea the first and 4th straight in paticular seems to get killed being uncovered.... however it is a public track so covering it wouldnt work well when everyone will come to ride though week .... hopefully it would be recovered or covers still there since its not far from not very gentle areas
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject:
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I'm gonna have to be a little mild on the first changes, but a pro section is in the works. I kind of doubt it will be this season unless i get a ton of help, equipment and about 100 yards of dirt. I do promise a smooth track and will cover the track to preserve all the hard work.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject:
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might have to make sure its covered nights and to preserve tarps uncover it in morning durring summer since i think alot of people go ride through the day.... but hell im down for helping... check with few equiptment companys might get them to loan a skidstear for a day or 2 for free advertising at the track and its also tax write off for them.... also i can find out what places carry clay that can be used that is decent surface and let u know... might get discount though them...... however if we scratch the 2nd turn ull have a bunch of clay there to use
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject:
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I really don't think it will take all that much dirt to put in a pro section.  And, as far as the 1st to 3rd turn thing, I think there is enough dirt to get the job done already.  I really think that a change of those turns would make racing much better there.

As Dmac said, dirt can usually be found or donated.  Have him spearhead the contacts - he's got another two months of working out and staring at my forums.

Let me know if I can help.
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject:
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I really don't think it will take all that much dirt to put in a pro section.  And, as far as the 1st to 3rd turn thing, I think there is enough dirt to get the job done already.  I really think that a change of those turns would make racing much better there.

As Dmac said, dirt can usually be found or donated.  Have him spearhead the contacts - he's got another two months of working out and staring at my forums.

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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject:
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hahaha, and yes very bored and anxious to get out riding again really exsited for this coming season... and got a 20 to ride against my buddy shawn Wink
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:22 am    Post subject:
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change the step up in the first to a mellow double.

new gate.

paint the concession stands and registration.

re do the last two straights.
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new gate? that gates the best one ive been on to date..... i think u got track confused with someplace else thats probably the best starting hill in the entire state series.... step up... eh idk double double and then into what should be a double?
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject:
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The thing about TriCity's first straight is that it is never going to be a normal National style first straight.  The starting hill is huge, therefore you have to have some pretty big jumps (for a first straight) to go with it.

I agree with Dmac, the gate itself is one of the nicest around.
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject:
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i hate the 2nd stright double needs to be shaped
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject:
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I remember the days when TriCity used to be on the cutting edge of the National track scene.

I remember at one point, the second straight was a single, waist-high roller.
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject:
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idk i still call that "thing" a table even tho its almost flat in and a drop on the back side
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject:
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That triple in the first straight was built by a good friend of mine by himself as i do recall. He was a few years younger then me and went to school with my wife Toni. I grew up racing with him since Tri City Started in Rexford in 1981. He died in a car crash prolly 8 or 9 years ago maybe longer and i believe he raced Super Ex. Bob Ivonelli was his name and he was pretty heavly involved in Tri city. So trying to remove that triple will not happen is my guess. Short really built guy that was wicked fast. It does need to be smoothed out and not so lippy. Last years state race was the smoothest i had seen that track in years back in the national scene. I have no doubt in my mind Shawn that Tri City will be kept up and much better then previous years. Like we talked about covering it like CNY after every race and practice other wise your just busting your arse every week for nothing. I love that gate as stated is one of the best around. You can count on me helping out to get it back in shape.
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I think the only thing you need to do to Tri City is to Smoothen it out alot. Its a long track. I remember back in the day Tri City had a 6 pack in the 4th straight  and the 5th straight had a table and a choice jump. Oneside of it was a dobble and the other side of it was a table. I have lots of Video of that track from when it was suuuuuper nice fast and smooth. Tri City was known all over for that 6 pack it was fun. I remember the 2007 seasion Myself and Ross wooding having some killer races on that track. I have a video of us changing the lead 11 times in one moto. The first straight was so smooth he could jump I could roll or I could jump and he could roll and neather one of us would gain a inch. It  was like that the whole way around the track it was so smooth. alot of times came down to had anypower left at the end. All I would like to see done to that track is make it smoother. Face it eather you can jump or you caint. Make it so that if you can jump. Jump till you caint jump anymore. But if you can roll or manual good, do it till you wheels fall off. All I am saying is leave it alone make it smooth and fast Like it used to be and LETS SEE WHO CAN RIDE
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject:
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The triple will definitly stay and i am gonna change the last straight, i'm thinking two deep rollers, table then two more deep rollers. rythem section will be deeper. I will be looking at the third staight for a possible pro section. depends on material and bobcat use, needs to be donated or it wont happen. It will be smooth as glass or ill die trying. look forward to all of your help. Very Happy
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triple needs some love to stay then i know alot of people that it kinda scares/makes nervous... but last 2 straights have the rhytem of a white boy but sounds like u have decent plan.. just looking into kingston and catamounts rythem is big start.... or maybe short version of xmas classics 3rd straight Wink for our 5th and then for our 6th straight.......... um step down roller table roller?... the last roller that is there almost seems like 1 to many now so that straight does need some attention and i feel those 2 being changed as your planning to do is biggest needs of the whole track... triple just scares me but maybe ill learn to jump and it wont be so bad ill pm u my number so u can get ahold of me when u start workin on track
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I agree with Nick on this one. There are way too many turns. And the turns are really too tight. I have alot of times rubbed the walls in those turns.

I'm definitely not a fan of the current layout. Too much speed is carried into those turns.

I would have loved to have seen the track back in the day.

If it wasn't a 2 plus hour drive for me, I would be there more often.
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