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marginallymanic
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Scalia probably needs one at his bedside, given some of the legal mayhem he's participated in.
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Menehune
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They don't teach that in firearms safety courses!! The only scenario I could think of for a loaded gun in my own home is for when the flesh eating undead zombies are looking at me like I was a snack!!
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Don't own a gun, and probably won't. If I do it will be because the kids are gone and I become convinced I need it for protection. In that case I'll also have a mean dog that will theoretically give me enough warning to get my cannon, (no small caliber shit for me) and minature Louisville slugger (which is currently by the bed) so I can beat the bastards about the head and then shoot em while they are on the ground or unconscious. That will give me time to plant the big knife they were waving at me. It might take a bit more work if I shoot them in the back, but I'm sure I'll think of something. 
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marginallymanic
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Don't get me wrong. I think if you want a gun in your home, then go for it. I just think most people are not aware of the risks that are associated with it. Canadian society would have to change a lot before I would ever have one.
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| Don't own a gun, and probably won't. If I do it will be because the kids are gone and I become convinced I need it for protection. |
I'm more likely to need it while my younger son's still here at home.
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The Justice in the article states that handguns are difficult to wrestle out of the hands of the one holding the gun-- but I believe (if I'm not mistaken) more people are shot with their own guns than are shot by the assailant's gun. There are a select category of people fast enough and with enough training to pose a serious threat to those who break in, but for the majority, a gun will hamper any efforts to thwart an invasion, and could end up killing someone. If I ever decided to buy a gun, I'd keep it locked and hidden, away from any (future) girlfriends! 
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Largs
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I think we should all get one and learn how to properly use them. We may be needing one sooner or later.
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YellowDuck
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buddhakisa
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15 or so years ago I was talking to a guy who had moved to to a small town in Texas from Chicago. After getting used to the snakes, dust and heat, he and his family loved it. The thing I remember most is him telling me in Texas you learn quick that the only reason you go onto someone else's property uninvited is because you want to get shot.
What gets lost in the whole debate is the fact if piece of shit thieves weren't breaking into peoples homes, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I know who I'd rather have as a neighbour, but since MW isn't into slumming, I guess shot gun Joe will have to do. I bet he watches FOX.
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He plainly told 911 he was "going to kill'em", went outside and pulled the gun on them. He said "you move, you die". At that point they (apparently) turned to run, and he shot them both in the back.
Yes, if people weren't breaking into other people's homes we wouldn't be having this conversation. Equally, and actually (much) more to the point, if Texas wasn't populated by gun-happy vigilante twits, we wouldn't be having this conversation either.
I personally have a problem with someone owning a gun "for protection", but at least I can understand the rationale. But shooting two people in the back, who are leaving, to protect a few thousand dollars worth of property? Hellllloooo?
And then getting acquitted of all charges? Sorry, that's insane. Texas is insane.
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buddhakisa
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What came first, the gun happy Texan or the thieving piece of shit immigrant? Lets also remember this is an extreme case and as far as I know, not a regular occurrence. I'm sure there are other counties in Texas where the grand jury would have indicted. The grand jury decision probably had a lot to do with a tax paying older white guy in a predominately white tax paying area shooting a couple of a non tax paying piece of shit immigrant thieves. Now you have gun happy racists. I am thinking if MM were to look into it, we would find a lot more home owners are killed / hurt by piece of shit thieves than the other way around.
As far as the 911 call, unless this guy has been shooting piece of shit thieves on a regular basis, it may have been his way of getting up the courage to face them and/or putting a sense of urgency into the police response. Maybe in 70 odd years this guy has never been threatened in his home and watching all those sensationalized news reports on FOX (the network of choice for racists gun owners) showing the aftermath of murderous home invasions by piece of shit immigrant thieves has him wound a little tight.
I'm sure if this happened in Toronto we would be hearing about how the real victims are the thieves who were probably forced into burglary because the welfare cheques for illegal aliens hardly covers the cost of a new tricked out Honda and a waterfront condo.
In case there is still any confusion, I'm not in the least bit sympathetic to piece of shit thieves.
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Oh, it was clear as crystal to me, Buddha.
You just wait till I'm one of those piece-of-shit immigrants cast up on your shores....
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buddhakisa
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The proper term is piece of shit immigrant thieves, and if you aren't a thief, we drop the piece of shit portion as well. But it can be added for other reasons.
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I'm sure if this happened in Toronto we would be hearing about how the real victims are the thieves who were probably forced into burglary because the welfare cheques for illegal aliens hardly covers the cost of a new tricked out Honda and a waterfront condo.
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Okay, reality check. In this particular story, who in your opinion is the "real victim"? The guy who stood to loose some stuff out of his house? The poor traumatized grandfather who had "no choice" but to blow their insides out of their bellies?
Get real. This guy appointed himself judge, jury and executioner and killed two people when he himself was in no danger whatsoever. This story has NOTHING to do with illegal immigrants. If they had been Americans of the same colour, they would still be dead. Theives? Sure. Since when is the penalty for that summary execution?
This guy had no right to shoot them, and he sure as hell shouldn't continue to have the right to have guns in his house. No one has the right to so what he did, and no amount of cowboy logic changes that. Get on the side of common sense here. |
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