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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Paulie pulls out the
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Beefing up the military, expanding security links with the U. S.... could it be Paulie is nervously pandering to possible Conservative voters?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Canada-Foreign-Policy.html
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject:
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It is getting so bad up here, I betcha Paulie wishes he could have a do-over on the latest round of Senate appointments.
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject:
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I think that it is too late for Paulie.
Canadians know that the party is corrupt to the core, the polls show it. No matter what kind of spin that the CBC tries to put on it.


Lorrie Goldstein's column in todays Sun

Did you know that an Environics Research poll released last week found that a startling 73% of Canadians surveyed believe Prime Minister Paul Martin is either "very responsible" or "somewhat responsible" for AdScam?

This is devastating news for the Liberals because it flies in the face of their claims that Canadians don't blame Martin for AdScam and that he's deeply trusted by voters, which they say will be the central theme of their next election campaign.

After all, since more than seven in 10 Canadians now believe, despite all Martin's protestations of innocence, that he bears at least some responsibility for AdScam, it's going to be pretty hard to build a campaign around him as, in the words of one aide, the "wire brush" who will wipe the stain of scandal from the Grits.

But you wouldn't know any of this from the highly selective reporting of this poll last week by the CBC, which commissioned it, and by other media, who, incredibly, portrayed it as a positive finding for Martin. (For alerting me to this controversy, I'm indebted to blogger "Michael" of Winnipeg, who first wrote about it Sunday on his website, bluemapleleaf.blogspot. com).

When the CBC reported this key finding from its own poll, it focused on the fact that when 1,200 Canadians were asked from April 11-13 who they thought was "very responsible" for AdScam, "just" 28% said Martin. (In separate questions, 52% said Jean Chretien was "very responsible" for AdScam, 48% said "a small number of officials working within the federal government" were "very responsible" and 45% identified "the Liberal Party of Canada" as "very responsible" for the scandal.)

Canadian Press, the national wire service, picked up on this theme, reporting that "the same polls indicating widespread disgust with Liberal scandal also suggest people don't blame Martin ... only 28% of respondents in the Environics poll said Martin was 'very responsible' for the sponsorship scandal." This article also quoted an unidentified "Liberal strategist" saying: "Canadians clearly trust the man. There's an affection for Paul Martin and we'd be crazy not to lean into that."

In fact, an Ipsos-Reid poll conducted for CTV and released late last week found more Canadians (40%) now trust Conservative Leader Stephen Harper than Martin (35%), although more still prefer Martin as prime minister to Harper (42% to 34%).

But what's incredible about the way the Environics findings were reported is that the media totally ignored the fact that in addition to the 28% of the public who held Martin "very responsible" for AdScam, the largest single group by far -- 45% -- thought he was "somewhat responsible." This compares to only 18% who thought Martin was "not responsible." (Even the Sun, which simply reported the 28% figure with no ediotrial comment, missed this aspect of the poll.)

Reported accurately, then, these are deeply alarming findings for the Liberals, because they speak directly to Martin's credibility, or lack thereof, with voters. For the media to portray this as a positive development for Martin and the Grits is simply absurd.

Surely the more accurate way of reporting a polling question which asks people whether they believe Martin is "very responsible," "somewhat responsible" or "not responsible" for AdScam is to combine the tally from the first two options and report that 73% believe Martin bears at least some responsibility, compared to only 18% who believe he bears none. Then it would be accurate to break down those who thought Martin bore some responsibility into the two categories of "very responsible (28%) and "somewhat responsible" (45%).

Reporting instead that "just" or "only" 28% think Martin is "very responsible" while completely ignoring the fact that the largest single group polled -- 45% -- think he is "somewhat responsible" is selective at best, misleading at worst. Especially when these reports went on to claim this finding was positive for Martin simply because Canadians think Chretien, the Liberal Party and "a small number of officials within the federal government" are even more responsible for AdScam than he is.

First, neither Chretien nor "a small number of officials within the federal government" are running for re-election. Second, Liberals can hardly be happy about the fact that Canadians think their party is even more responsible for AdScam than Martin.

Instead of uncritically reporting the Liberals' rather desperate spin on this poll, it would have been much more accurate to say that while it was bad news for Martin, it was even worse for the Liberals. Assuming, of course, that accuracy was the goal.
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