[Davidforyah]

ok i have been wanting to do this and now i hope others will jump onboard. John is regarded as one of if not the books of the bible that is essential.
John ch 1 starts off by pointing out who the word of God is. Refering to the logos the express image of God being Christ Jesus. Any thought fire away. I am doing an en dept of this book and at the church i am going to. Plus i am using Ray Stedmans work as well on John. Please keep your post to the point and back it up with scriptures and for the sake of everyone here lets keep it about a paragraph size lol....David

[everlastinglife]

John 1
The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.

The Alpha and the Omega. A introduction to hope, hope that has always been there and in Jesus Christ we have something the dark cant deal with. In Jesus Christ is the epitomy of what a man can and should be. The true light and life of all man.. My thoughts anyway. Good study topic David. And if I may add....

Proverbs 30:4
4 Who has ascended into heaven, or descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has bound the waters in a garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name, and what is His Son’s name,
If you know?

[Davidforyah]

interesting to see what the main theme of John is. I would have to say it would be John1:1 When doing a study on a book the 1st thing is to identify the main theme of the book and EVERYTHING CENTERS AROUND THAT MAIN IDEA. With that in mind.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Nkjv

Joh 1:1 IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. [Isa. 9:6.] AMP

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word [or, the Expression of [divine] Logic], and the Word was with [or, in communion with] God, and the Word was God [or, was as to His essence God]. ALT

Joh 1:1 The Prologue to the Gospel
In the beginning1 was the Word, and the Word was with God,2 and the Word was fully God.3
Also Heb 1:3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

G3056
λόγος lógos; gen. lógou, masc. noun from légō (G3004), to speak intelligently. Intelligence, word as the expression of that intelligence, discourse, saying, thing.
(I) Word, both the act of speaking and the thing spoken.
(A) Word, as uttered by the living voice, a speaking, speech, utterance (Mat_8:8; Luk_7:7; Luk_23:9; 1Co_14:9; Heb_12:19); a saying, discourse, conversation (Mat_12:37; Mat_15:12; Mat_19:22; Mat_22:15; Mat_26:1; Joh_4:29; Act_5:24). Metonymically, the power of speech, delivery, oratory, eloquence (1Co_12:8; 2Co_11:6; Eph_6:19). To speak a word against someone (Mat_12:32); to someone (Luk_12:10). The Word of God, meaning His omnipotent voice, decree (2Pe_3:5, 2Pe_3:7; Sept.: Psa_32:6 [cf. Gen_1:3; Psa_148:5]).

[everready]

I'm and at the same time, the book of john was the first book I read as a new Christian, what I'm posting isn't paragraph size but speaks reams of what his word means to me.

everready and,
In Christ,
Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARELfp15zbc

[IamRedeemed]

I would say both John 1:1 coupled with John 1:14, which is, "and the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Jesus and the Word of God, cannot be separated, neither can Jesus be separated from God.
God indeed dwelt among us. (sorry that with the definitions, it goes over a paragraph's length)

WORD
The same Greek word for "word" is used for Christ as is for a word (noun)
Strong's 3056 word lovgo� logos
Strong's 3056 Word (Christ) lovgo� logos

1. of speech
1. a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea
2. what someone has said
1. a word
2. the sayings of God
3. decree, mandate or order
4. of the moral precepts given by God
5. Old Testament prophecy given by the prophets
6. what is declared, a thought, declaration, aphorism, a weighty saying, a dictum, a maxim
3. discourse
1. the act of speaking, speech
2. the faculty of speech, skill and practice in speaking
3. a kind or style of speaking
4. a continuous speaking discourse - instruction
4. doctrine, teaching
5. anything reported in speech; a narration, narrative
6. matter under discussion, thing spoken of, affair, a matter in dispute, case, suit at law
7. the thing spoken of or talked about; event, deed
2. its use as respect to the MIND alone
1. reason, the mental faculty of thinking, meditating, reasoning, calculating
2. account, i.e. regard, consideration
3. account, i.e. reckoning, score
4. account, i.e. answer or explanation in reference to judgment
5. relation, i.e. with whom as judge we stand in relation
1. reason would
6. reason, cause, ground
3. In John, denotes the essential Word of God, Jesus Christ, the personal wisdom and power in union with God, his minister in creation and government of the universe, the cause of all the world's life both physical and ethical, which for the procurement of man's salvation put on human nature in the person of Jesus the Messiah, the second person in the Godhead, and shone forth conspicuously from His words and deeds.

A Greek philosopher named Heraclitus first used the term Logos around600 B.C. to designate the divine reason or plan which coordinates achanging universe. This word was well suited to John's purpose in John 1.

The root word of lovgo is Lego, Strong's 3004

1. to say, to speak
1. affirm over, maintain
2. to teach
3. to exhort, advise, to command, direct
4. to point out with words, intend, mean, mean to say
5. to call by name, to call, name
6. to speak out, speak of, mention

FLESH
4561 savrx sarx
# flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts
# the body

1. the body of a man
2. used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship
1. born of natural generation
3. the sensuous nature of man, "the animal nature"
1. without any suggestion of depravity
2. the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin
3. the physical nature of man as subject to suffering

# a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast
# the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God.

interesting to see what the main theme of John is. I would have to say it would be John1:1 When doing a study on a book the 1st thing is to identify the main theme of the book and EVERYTHING CENTERS AROUND THAT MAIN IDEA. With that in mind.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Nkjv
~snipped for brevity~

[Davidforyah]

iamredeemed; that is a very well done post and i appreciate the hard work... but to sum it all up is to say that Jesus speaks the very thoughts of God the very expressed word.
Many fail to relate Heb 4:12 with Christ but the bible as a whole but if you follow the context it is talking about The logos its talking about Jesus Christ who is doing the work even though the word ( the Bible ) speaks of the living word. Rhema is about sayings, sentances where logos is about the thought in itself.
If you check out the word in heb 4:12 you will see it is talking about the logos a noun john 1:1...

[Sister]

1:1 In the beginning recalls the creation but speaks of the Creator Himself. As Gen. 1:1 introduces the original creation, by itself an incomplete existence, this verse reveals the new creation, a fulfilled and complete existence.

Was the Word Was indicates existence without reference to a starting point. Therefore, In the beginning was the word emphasizes (1) the Word's eternal existence in the Father without beginning, and (2) His oneness with Him in essence. Logos signifies wisdom and reason as well as word: the Creator. ("Creation" is Gr. Logikos, participating in the Divine Word.) With the Incarnation, the Logos fully participates in human nature.

The Word was with God: With in the Greek shows that the Word, the Son, is (1) a distinct Person from the Father, and (2) in communion with the Father.

The Word was God: The Old Testament prophets saw the Word of God as the presence of the Lord. This phrase reveals He is not only from the Father, He is coequal and coeternal with the Father: one in divinity with Him. "I and My Father are one" Some mistranslate this phrase "the Word was a god" to propogate their heresy that the Son is a created being, not fully divine. Such a translation is unwarranted and false.

The Word is co-Creator of all things with the Father (Gen 1 and Ps 33:6, 9) Not merely an "instrument or a "servant" of creation. Will, operation and power are seen to be one in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Through Him shows the Word is not included in all things created by the Father. His eternal birth is by generation from the Father, whereas, the works of creation are made. Thus, the heavens and the earth are the works of the One who made them, while the Son alone is born from the Father. Even when He comes in human flesh, the Word forever remains God, the Creator.

1:4 As the Divine Word incarnate, Christ is also the source of Life and enlightenment. Because the Word is God, He is life: only God has life in Himself.

[Davidforyah]

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Ok i am covering this 1st chapter before shifting to the baptist. some key words here i will underline that stand out.
verse 4 stands out because the life i see is the life adam lost and so did death come upon mankind as well. Christ had that life in him and through him we can live again. the word life hear is:1:4 In Him was life. This does not simply mean that He possessed life, but that He was and is the source of life. The word here includes both physical and spiritual life. When we were born, we received physical life. When we are born again, we receive spiritual life. Both come from Him.
( BBC)
Joh 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.

The same One who supplied us with life is also the light of men. He provides the guidance and direction necessary for man. It is one thing to exist, but quite another to know how to live, to know the true purpose of life, and to know the way to heaven. The same One who gave us life is the One who provides us with light for the pathway we travel.(BBC)
Now in verse 5 the reason the darkness cannot comprehend the light is because there spiriually dead. Reading romans ch 1 defines death.

[everlastinglife]

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Ok i am covering this 1st chapter before shifting to the baptist. some key words here i will underline that stand out.
verse 4 stands out because the life i see is the life adam lost and so did death come upon mankind as well. Christ had that life in him and through him we can live again. the word life hear is:1:4 In Him was life. This does not simply mean that He possessed life, but that He was and is the source of life. The word here includes both physical and spiritual life. When we were born, we received physical life. When we are born again, we receive spiritual life. Both come from Him.
( BBC)
Joh 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.

The same One who supplied us with life is also the light of men. He provides the guidance and direction necessary for man. It is one thing to exist, but quite another to know how to live, to know the true purpose of life, and to know the way to heaven. The same One who gave us life is the One who provides us with light for the pathway we travel.(BBC)
Now in verse 5 the reason the darkness cannot comprehend the light is because there spiriually dead. Reading romans ch 1 defines death.

Joh 1:4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

We are to strive to be like Jesus, when we seek to be like Him we feed off the life in Him. When people notice the change in you, when people see Jesus in you sincerely, in my opinion that is the light of men. And I would say a good choice of verses....

Joh 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.

It goes hand in hand. If I may add... We cannot grow and achieve spiritually without spiritual food, being nourished by Gods word. We can go to church on sunday and wednsday etc..get a good word leave it right there and think we are full. We cant eat one day a weak and have sufficient nutrition.. We treat our meals seriously how about our meals that God provides!! Hes a great cook! Great thread.

[everready]

Shortest verse in the bible: Jesus wept.

[david]

Not exactly true. That would be the shortest verse in the English translation of the Bible. The shortest verse in the Greek text is I Thess. 5:17 - Pray without ceasing.

[Davidforyah]

David well said. We must be saturated with the word of God. I agree nothing can fill a person more then the word of God and Prayer. They go hand in hand...
But the Bible leads us to The Word the true word which is Christ Jesus our Lord. I am finding out the more i saturate myself with Christ and my mind is set on things above not on things below i make no room for the Flesh. Walking in the Spirit is being faithful to the word of God and not yeilding my members to the Flesh or OSN. I thank God For his presence because without him i would be lost. David

[heiscomingintheclouds]

Many have difficulty understanding that Jesus was God, but is not the Father.

In Hebrews 1, the Father refers to the Son as God. Who are we to question that.

The Father begat his Son the Word, in the beginning, even before the creation of the heavens and earth.The Father begat the Son a life unto himself. (John 5:26) The Father gave his Son the fullness of his Holy Spirit, without measure. The will of the Son was only that of his Father. So it is not robbery to consider the Son God, for he is the perfect will of his Father.

Yet, there will come a time when the Son will relinquish the authority of the Godhead back unto the Father. For there is only one God. 1Cor. 15:24-28

So in short, the Father has authorized his Son who is the expressed image of the Father to be his will over all of creation. All things were created by the Son and through the Son by the will of his Father though the unction of his Holy Spirit.

For no man cometh unto the Father, but through the Son.