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Dingle McFarkle
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Farming "Community"
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I know Ben_Ledi says there's no such thing as a "community" these days...... Sadly I think he's right.

I know someone who charges £20 for grooming a dog and I know someone else who can only get 75p for shearing a sheep. I was talking about this to a local (fairly young) stockman a while back. He reckoned that, once upon-no'-that-long-ago, there was no money invoved in clipping sheep.

The whole place was full of small farms, and it worked like this. At clipping time, all the small farmers would turn up at one farm and clip all of Jones's sheep. The next day, Jones would join everyone else at McTavish's farm to clip McTavish's sheep......... And so on. Nobody got paid. They just a good feed and a dram at the end o' the day.

The small farms have now disappeared under Wimpey Estates or else been given over to to horse livery (which is insanely lucrative..... until some wealthy tart gets fed up posing, decides to stop paying, disappears, and you get landed wi' another unwanted horse worth almost nothing these days.). Only a few biggish farms remain.

More recently, I was present when two local farmers met for the first time...... And for the first time, they realised that they'd been neighbours for the past 10 years.

Sad....
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject:
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I don't know anything about farming communities but I do know that old Shottstown had one of the best communities ever when it came to supporting each other.

A whip round every week when someone was off work, mucking in with washing and scrubbing when one of the kids was down with scarlet fever or diphtheria.  They were a great set of people.
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject:
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Aye, I think miners had a community...... Gone now though.

One of Tom Weir's programmes was about the old lead mining community at Leadhills. Working lead ore, they often fell sick. The local doctor would advise them to drink a full bottle of whisky and then retire to bed. One of the other miner's would volnteer to to work the sick man's shift so that he didn't lose any pay. Maybe that's part of the reason that the sense of "community" has gone: we've all got it too easy now
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject:
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Dingle McFarkle wrote:
One of the other miner's would volnteer to to work the sick man's shift so that he didn't lose any pay.


Aye, I remember my father doing that very same thing at the gunpowder mills if any of his mates were off sick ----- and I expect they did it for him.
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject:
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It used to be like that in the home, too. You had one television set (if you were lucky) so everyone watched the same programme. If there was music on, on the single Dansette or radiogram, everybody listened. Maybe you didn't like everything your dad or your wee brother liked - but with a bit of give and take, everyone had their turn.

Nowadays, even if you're in the same room, you can have your iPod plugged into your brain, or be in the middle of some wildly fantastical computer game in some space jungle somewhere in Outer Space - while grannie is singing along to her Max Bygraves CD and Mum is watching her keep-fit DVD.

Every one of us is an individual, and there's no real point of contact any more. "Shall I turn the record over now?" means nothing, since nobody else even knows it's been on.

If we can't communicate in the home, what chance do we have outside, amongst strangers?
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject:
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I think another contributing factor is that few families seem to sit down around the table and eat a meal together these days - everyone seems to eat with a plate on their lap in front of the television.  I must admit, because of things like son going to football training, or daughter's part-time job, they sometimes eat earlier (or later), but generally speaking, we do all sit down and eat as a family, probably at least five nights a week. It's good because it gives us all a chance to chat about our respective days, etc, and I'm sad that it appears to be unusual for many folk now...
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject:
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I used to love sitting at the table with my mum, dad and brother. Got some great philosophical chats sometimes and it was where I learnt the facts of like...birds, bees etc etc....

I think it's really important or you'll never find out what everyone's up to or what's on their minds. I think it brings you closer.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject:
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Community is the one thing I think everyone's missing these days. Sadly it's not something I've really experienced being young still, but Having read a lot of books I can see that it was a great thing.
It's so depressing that everything revolves around money these days; people always seem so surprised when I offer to do or make something for free. I'd love to go back to the times when people did things for eachother, and everyone knew their neighbours. I also think bartering should return, it's the best idea ever!
It's also sad to see so many local shops closing down because of supermarkets; places like Penicuik and Balerno seem to be turning into ghost towns.
Just out of curiosity Dingle, do you still know any farmers who shear sheep? Since I spin wool I'm always interested in finding people with spare fleeces they are willing to sell.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject:
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Anna wrote:

Just out of curiosity Dingle, do you still know any farmers who shear sheep? Since I spin wool I'm always interested in finding people with spare fleeces they are willing to sell.


I know someone who might be able to help. I'll pm you sometime after I've spoken to her again.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject:
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But why confine yourself to sheeps' wool?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7304452.stm

Actually, there used to be someone at Roslin who used to knit Bearded Collie (lovely dogs) "wool".
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject:
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I know it's probably irrational, but I just keep thinking - get caught in the rain, smell like a wet dog! Or "wouldn't it be really itchy"? Anyway, I don't really want to look like a Bearded Collie - although I do agree with Dingle, Beardies are nice dogs! Smile
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