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Spry
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: New stuff |
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Here's a thought, maybe an idiotic one but a thought just the same. We (the human race and me too) are not too keen on new ideas, concepts or discoveries. We prefer the status quo.
Now that I've done the legwork, I can sit back and await comments from the masses.
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Big Davie
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I Prefer Thin Lizzy to Status Quo myself, but i am of to see the mighty
Quo at the Playhouse in December. You have my permision to shoot me Spry, it's just sunk in that you are not talking about rock bands.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Not to worry, Davie - so long as he's still pole-dancing round his stick, he can't hit anybody with it! |
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soup
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: New stuff |
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| Spry wrote: |
We prefer the status quo.
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If that "we" encompassed the entire human race we would all still be living in caves (yes I know we never actually did but...).
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SueDOnym
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Pole dancing? I believe Edna has some experience in that field.... |
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Spry
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: New stuff |
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| soup wrote: |
If that "we" encompassed the entire human race we would all still be living in caves (yes I know we never actually did but...). |
Ah, but I wonder how many shakers and movers were clubbed to death for daring to suggest that we move out of the caves we never lived in?
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Spry
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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and Anona Mouse, you ken fine that's my brother that's dancing round the stick (Hyde was always the Spry one).
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Spry
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and Davie, thanks for letting me know that Status Quo was a band. Did they come before or after Geraldo?
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Spry said " thanks for letting me know that Status Quo was a band "
Yes thats almost true, they are actually a band of pensioners learning out of The Bert Weedon Tune a Day Book, and they've been taking lessons from Malcolm Jones of Runrig.
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Sue wrote:
Pole dancing? I believe Edna has some experience in that field....
And I was going to borrow one of your oufits too, Sue!  |
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soup
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: New stuff |
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| Spry wrote: |
Ah, but I wonder how many shakers and movers were clubbed to death for daring to suggest that we move out of the caves we never lived in? |
Quite a few I would imagine [1] but there is always someone who is prepared to stick their head over the parapet and say "it would be better if".
[1] EG. Those that were charged and executed on charges of heresy for daring to say the Earth wasn't the centre of the Universe.
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Since you say that, soup - I heard this really good point at the anti-Trident rally on Saturday. Apparently, to build the new stuff would take us 17 years. Yet, the way US and Britain talks, Iran could build and have a method of delivery overnight. This point was made by the speaker for the Muslim organisations (sorry I can't remember the name). I felt that was over the parapet enough!! And a d*mn good point!
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Spry
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: Re: New stuff |
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| soup wrote: |
[1] EG. Those that were charged and executed on charges of heresy for daring to say the Earth wasn't the centre of the Universe. |
EXACTLY! Because they dared to defy those who insisted on the status quo (no' Big Davie). They based their opinions on the experimental method and not on the affirmation of received wisdom.
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---- and going into a bit more detail -----
Galileo was ready to prove the case for Copernican astronomy. He was led before the Inquisition, "shown the instruments of torture," and invited to recant. He did, but was kept under house arrest for the rest of his life. Other natural philosophers weren't so fortunate. Being burned at the stake was their lot.
Trofim Lysenko, provided the official stance on biology during the Stalinist era. His theories on environmentally acquired inheritance held the science of biology back by several decades. If you disagreed with his theories, you were purged, maybe even to the extent of being executed.
Today we have totalitarian states where the same sort of thing happens ---- "disagree with our dogma and you're for the chop!" "Criticise our religious beliefs and we'll take out a contract on you!"
And we needn't be too smug. Genetic engineering has a lot going for it but the very word "genetic" is now a dirty one in the ears of many, if not most people. Our tabloid newspapers have a lot to answer for in this respect. Was it not the one that claims to represent middle-Britain that coined the term "Frankenstein Foods"?
What did I say at the beginning of this thread? "We are not too keen on new ideas, concepts or discoveries. We prefer the status quo." Change "we" to "an awfy lot o' us"!
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As you say Spry, 99.99% of people want an easy life; will pay lip service to the "accepted" dogma etc but there will always be a few who are willing to fly in the face of "accepted" wisdom and put forward their own theories.
To be honest the idea behind "genetic" engineering doesn't frighten me when it is aimed at increasing yield etc (isn't that what farmers have been doing for years, "best" heifer with "best" bull etc) when it does get "iffy" is when they split a sea weed gene into pork.
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