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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject:
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I feel that Cyclops has made a good handful of mistakes, most notably sending a small team to deal with Sinister. I think if he would work with Xavier instead of pushing him away, they are both capable leaders, and i'm a little disappointed at how Xavier has been handled.

But yes, i've been waiting for any word on Gambit.
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject:
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It does seem that everybody is quick to condemn Xavier, but then you've got to bear in mind that over the past year or so it's been revealed to them that he kept a sentient life form as essentially a slave (Danger), he wiped their minds of the existence of Scott's brother Vulcan and the other team of X-Men (now dead), and that because of that Scott's father is dead and his sane brother is stuck out in space fighting his crazy brother. I can see why they aren't entirely willing to sit back and let him say his piece. It doesn't help that for the most part he's confronted Scott in front of the rest of the team, which you just do not do in a war situation. You don't undermine the leader and he should know that. Maybe if he approached when Scott was on his own and offered some ideas other than 'you're doing it wrong' it might go a bit better.

I'll admit that Scott has made his fair share of mistakes, and he probably is letting his feelings get in the way a little, but he's having to react instead of act and that isn't giving him much time to put the rational head back on. I'm not sure if X-Force is a good thing or not at this point, but I guess we'll see.

Saying that, the team he sent after Sinister were doing fine until the New X-Men screwed up and shattered Emma's concentration.

I'm constantly checking the solicits, news articles and previews for any glimpse of him. It's not going well.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject:
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Not that you asked me, but my only prob with Slim so far is his kneejerk turn around on Cable.  One issue he's all weepy, then once he finds out 'junior' is alive he sics Wolvie on him with a death order.  Seems a bit extreme, but then, maybe Cyke's just so concerned about the baby that he doesn't trust it in anyone else's hands.  

As far as Cable running from Nimrod or Pred X (who I could really see dying soon...not much has been done with it lately), how about this for a lemony twist:  Cable's trying to keep the baby from Bishop, who actually turns out to be the much ballyhooed traitor.  Thus the two play time-period hopscotch for a few issues before they both realize that being overly muscled, huge gun-toting time-hoppers is too 1990's Rob Liefield, so they proclaim their undying love one for another, move to a quiet little neighborhood in western Illinois and adopt the child as their own.  

And while I agree that the Logan World Tour is getting a bit much, I'm actually looking forward to Wolvie: First Class....'course that might have a bit more to do with a certain mutant named Pryde than with Mr. Stabsalot.  That last Astonishing TPB is being a pain to wait for, and Ma Chat has not been in MCX yet, so I'm needing a Kitty fix somewhere.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject:
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Except he doesn't send Claw Force to kill Cable. He sends them to get the baby by any means necessary. That doesn't mean stab first ask questions later. And they don't. They try to talk to Cable first and when he runs they go after him. No stabbing yet.

Yeah Cable and Bishop could settle down and raise the baby. I'd prefer it if Deadpool saved Cable from Bishop and then they raised the kid, since Deadpool & Cable OTP.

Yeah. Poor Kitty. You know she's probably not going to survive the end of Astonishing.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject:
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Yeah. Poor Kitty. You know she's probably not going to survive the end of Astonishing.


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And while Scotty didn't quite put an overt 'Kill Cable' card in Logan's pocket, he did straight out blame Cable for using those nano-sentinels and then branded him a traitor.  Of course the phrase 'Take him down and get that child back by any means necessary' doesn't exactly sound like Scott is trying too terribly hard to spare Cable.  And while you're not wrong in saying Claw Force didn't skewer first and chat later, there was the small matter of the Reavers being there.  And since between Cable and Deathstrike, Deathstrike was the bigger threat to the baby, Team Stabbidy Stab took her out first.

Maybe Deadpool could steal the baby from Cable and try his hand at single-parenting.  I'd buy that series.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject:
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I'm sure Kitty will be just fine. I'm sure that she's one of Scott's secret weapons and that's why she hasn't shown up yet in MC Razz

He blamed Cable after having a lot of the mansion pulled down around his ears (and possibly one of the students killed and several seriously hurt). You've got to admit that it was suspicious timing. Besides, there weren't many other people with control over the nano-sentinel technology. I'm not saying that he made the right choice to blame Cable but like he says, his back is against the wall and he's got to act for the survival of all mutants. No time for Mr. nice guy. Apologize to those still alive at the end if any of them make it out alive.

I still think that the Lupine Avengers would have tried talking Cable down first. I mean he did just grab the baby and run without letting anyone know that he was still alive. Scott's got a right to suspect the worst, since it isn't the first time Cable's been a little hinky.

Yay for Laura taking out Deathstrike. Obsessive, possessive love at it's best.

I'd so buy single parent Deadpool the series. It'd be so funny and I love Wade. Especially if he had Bob as the babysitter/nanny.

And how many names do you reckon we can come up with for Team Scratch and Sniff?
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject:
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We all know that if Kitty got involved there wouldn't even be a Messiah Complex crossover.  By now she'd have already pounded Sinister's face, slaughtered the Marauders and dismembered the Reavers.  Plus she'd also have possession of the baby and have convinced Remy to run away with her.  Of course then they'd end up with one of those cutesy nicknames where you take the first part of one name and mash it with the last part of the other person's name, like:  Kimy or Retty.  

Yeah, I'm not saying Cable looks exactly innocent or helpful at the moment, but as he once told Captain America: "You think in terms of how it might affect things for years to come.  I think in terms of centuries, of millennia--past and present."  So he does have a history of seeing a bigger picture than the rest of our Merry Mutants...or at least he thinks he does...you know, with his Messianic Complex and all.  Besides, I seriously doubt he's the only one on the planet with access to nano-sentinel tech.  I'm sure if Sinister wanted to get his hands on some he very well could.  Though I'd be more apt to believe the Church of Latter Day Genocide would be a more likely culprit.  Not sure how they'd get their hands on it, but they seem to have deep pockets, and deep pockets tend to produce deep connections.  But still, you're right, it's not as if Cyke has a ton of time to spend playing 'What if'; he's got to act on what he's seen.  And what he's seen is Cable secretly sneaking off with the baby without so much as a phone call to let daddy know he's all right.

I'm still not sure about what the Savage Six would have done if not for the Reavers.  Last issue Wolvie was talking like they were going to drop Cable where he stood, and Wolvie was worried Warpath might not be able to do that.  If they were just going to talk with Cable why worry about Warpath's ability to handle the mission?  Unless Wolvie planned to talk first and then stab if necessary...at which point Warpath might not have the stomach to see Cable get finished off...but really, since when does Wolvie socialize before slicing?  

It is so nice to see Laura finally getting to play with the big boys.  I loved her quote to Deathstrike: "You call yourself Deathstrike, show me."  

Babysitter Bob, that's genious.  We should send that idea in to Marvel.

How many are we up to now?  Cause I can see that list growing.  Though I should mention, Savage Six no longer applies, so they're now the Feral Five.
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