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Ricochet Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 46	Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Fathers Day at CP 2008 · Quote I pulled up and parked, a minivan pulled next to me with a side sign that said something like "Cheerleaders club" and four guys got out. I went into the park and there a lot of  rainbows all around. While standing in line  for Millineum Force and rather than good ol' rock and roll, they were playing TECHNO, really really "happy hardcore" techno. When I heard Culture Club playing on the way out, that cemented it. It was happy fun day at the Point.  *shrug* Okay, so here's how it went. Crowds were heavy but the lines for coasters were lighter than other Sundays I've been at the Point.  At the beginning, Raptor had an hour wait so I went to the Blue Streak and rode once, but a breakdown stopped me from riding again. It feels like they have loosened up some of the trims, so it was fun again. Then to Wicked Twister, great as always. Three times. Walked the sidewalk along the lake and came back in for Magnum and did that three times. Only really rough part was the turnaround, otherwise HOLY AIRTIME! There were no trims on and it flew! Then I walked back to see Maverick with an hour wait so I went on what is now, IMHO the worst coaster anywhere. Mean Streak. Last seat was, well, halfway through the ride I wanted to jump off. The roughest, not fast, load of lumber out there. It was bone jarring, teeth rattling. BUT, true to myself, I got back on a second time in the second row because it couldn't be THAT BAD and HOLY DAMN the have it OVERTRIMMED so much that front seat is a nice place to sleep. Either a serious re-track or major re-profile is needed. Even Son Of Beast seemed a better ride and not as rough. I took the train to the other side of the midway and rode Iron Dragon, which compared to KI's Flight Deck, is awesome. If you don't ride up front on Iron Dragon, why ride...but up front is pretty fun. Wildcat was down so I thought about doing Mantis for B&M goodness, but decided on the TECHNO Coaster. Millineum Force was awesome as ever. Best steel coaster period. Still smooth, and still a hell of a drop and speed. Well, I went for the big one. Top Thrill and had another breathtaking trip. Went through in 30 minutes. (If it would have been an hour, I probably would have gone back to Magnum.) Stopped at the Corkscrew and got one for the old Arrow and that was my day. I did ride Chaos which is more than a spin and puke, it's a turn you over and what next? It was a lot of fun. Also got nostalgic and rode the Matterhorn. It was a shorter ride cycle than the Hay Bailer at GL and one of my earliest ride memories from the Lorain county fair when I was about 7. I would have stayed longer and almost got on the Raptor which was down to a 15 minute wait, but it looked like impending rain and I had dinner to grill. Great coaster fun at the Point bringing my coaster total: 38CF coaster rides.  102 to go.
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1619	Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: · Quote Nice TR Ricochet. As or Mean Streak there is only one thing that can save it - a huge bonfire! Its interesting you noted that the lines were rather short for most rides. What did you say? A 30 min wait for TTD? Wow - guess people aren't exaggerating when they say that CP's attendance is down. Well that is unless you ask a fanboy. _________________ Greed is what caused GL's demise and that just makes me sick. Lets do what we can to rat out Kinzel - hes a snake. In the end the truth will come out and we will then see whos laughing at who.
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amusementpark7 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 122	Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: · Quote Didn't Ricochet write "crowds were heavy".  I guess I must be imagining things.  Because the TTD's line is short, the attendance must be down! (In regards to that particular coaster though, I would assume the shorter than usual waits are actually because of improved operations as it seems to be running pretty smoothly and consistenly this year)
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1619	Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Fathers Day at CP 2008 · Quote Ricochet wrote: ....... Crowds were heavy but the lines for coasters were lighter than other Sundays I've been at the Point. ?...........Well, I went for the big one. Top Thrill and had another breathtaking trip. Went through in 30 minutes. ^ You must have only read what you wanted to see. _________________ Greed is what caused GL's demise and that just makes me sick. Lets do what we can to rat out Kinzel - hes a snake. In the end the truth will come out and we will then see whos laughing at who.
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amusementpark7 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 122	Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: · Quote I only read what I wanted to see? Ricochet wrote that crowds were heavy.  He also wrote that the lines for the roller coasters were shorter than normal and in particular that TTD was only about 30 minutes.   Somehow, coasterdad correlated an average line wait time for a particular attraction to down attendance, when ricochet clearly stated that the crowds were heavy.  Puzzling.  Uh, ridership may have been down for that particular attraction, but where in the heck you got attendance was down from crowds were heavy, is beyond me and any logic. P.S. If it was reported that the TTD wait was 2 hours, I'm sure there would be certain posters on this board saying how long the wait times are at Cedar Point, how it's pointless to go there because all you do is wait in line, or how bad the operations are.  But now the wait for TTD is 30 mins, so the only way to criticize Cedar Point for that is to say that attendance sucks!
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Ricochet Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 46	Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Whoa fellas.... · Quote Yes, my post said crowds were heavy and the rides were lighter. Not the Raptor which I said was initially 1 hour wait. Top Thrill was likewise at about 1pm as was Maverick. ( I rode TTD at 6pm, dinner time...) BUT, the parking lot was 3/4 full when I left. Crowds were indeed heavy, but the majority of thrill rides were humming through the crowds. The only theory on this is, it was FATHERS DAY, and kids and families were riding stuff they could ride. The train ride was packed. Camp snoopy was no slouch. Plus the huge number of the fabulous folk might have had different tastes than burning up the rails. Don't know why this caused any hubub bub.  Yes, I'd say loading and unloading was a bit more efficient, on MF especially and it was only on TTD that I really felt the wrath of the coaster nazis, otherwise, pretty good all around.
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amusementpark7 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 122	Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: · Quote This was made into such a hubub bub because coasterdad somehow got that attendance was down out of crowds were heavy.  He made a big deal out of how you mentioned you went through TTD's line in 30 minutes.  But you then clarified to say the line was about 1 hour during the busiest part of the day.  It seems the roller coaster lines for the big ones were about 1 hour across the board....that seems like a great balance between attendance and getting people moved through the line! I wonder why coasterdad hasn't commented on this article yet.  He criticizes me for saying that I only read what I want to see, but he has yet to explain how in the world he got attendance is down from crowds are heavy. (then it was proven his uproar about TTD's 30 min wait was much much ado about nothing, since the wait was 1 hr during the busiest part of the day).
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1619	Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: · Quote Coasterdad never got attendance was down out of crowds were heavy, that was something AP7 did. Its the simple spinning of words that CF is also very good at. My statement of attendance being down was due to observation of the TTD midway and the que line for TTD. I have NEVER seen it where it was last Sunday when it should have been a busy day. By that observation I am saying that there were not as many guests in the park as normal. Was it because people there that day don't like TTD? Possibly, but I doubt it. In another thread my suspicions of the park not being busy were verified. So I guess either AP7 and I don't agree on what busy at CP means or he is being fed information to try and spin the fact that CP's numbers are down this season _________________ Greed is what caused GL's demise and that just makes me sick. Lets do what we can to rat out Kinzel - hes a snake. In the end the truth will come out and we will then see whos laughing at who.
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amusementpark7 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 122	Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: · Quote ATTENDANCE IS DOWN AT CEDAR POINT!!!  We all know that, no one is denying that, but to say this is the worst attendance the park has ever seen is absurd! And why would you make a statement in regards to the park's attendance due to the length of one line?  Ricochet said that this line was a one hour wait, anways.  Look at the image you took from the Cedar Point's webcam.  Take a look at the parking lot, there's a good amount of cars there.  Now is the lot 110%, like it was last September and October, no, but it's a pretty good crowd for a Sunday in June.   So even though a poster on here justifies his remark on attendance of the entire park by the looks of one que line, I will stick to my spinning of words by saying that this particular poster got attendance is down from crowds are heavy. (Just re-read these past 8 or so posts and see what really makes the most common sense).
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Dominator56 Villain User is Offline Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 1211 Location: Akron, Ohio	Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: · Quote Nice TR Richochet....I really wish they would tear mean streak out...its just a heap of wood, just waiting to be burned. _________________ Geauga Lake I will miss you!
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DominatorDude05 Raging Wolf Bobs User is Offline Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 466	Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: · Quote Seeing as how TTD is one of the more popular coasters at the Point, a half hour wait either means they were impeccable with efficiency, or they were not getting the ridership they're intending this season. Flat out, no three ways about it (or ifs ands or buts...). _________________ 2008 - Mantis Crew 2007 - Rocket Sled Ride ATL 2006 - Dominator Crew
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1619	Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: · Quote DominatorDude05 wrote: Seeing as how TTD is one of the more popular coasters at the Point, a half hour wait either means they were impeccable with efficiency, or...... NOT! Guess again. _________________ Greed is what caused GL's demise and that just makes me sick. Lets do what we can to rat out Kinzel - hes a snake. In the end the truth will come out and we will then see whos laughing at who.
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amusementpark7 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 122	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: · Quote This thread was discussing attendance numbers not ridership numbers.  Those are two completely different things.  Cedar Point's attendance is down.  I guess we'll know at the end of the season the ridership numbers for TTD as CP posts each ride's numbers on their website, but that still has nothing to do with attendance. But where people got that attendance was down because the TTD line is shorter than normal is beyond me.  (Especially when it was said that crowds were heavy for that particular day).
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1619	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: · Quote Ive spoken to several people that were CP Sunday and two even posted confirming the park WAS NOT busy, although they aren't CP fanboys so maybe they were imagining how less crowed it seemed. Maybe there were at a different park. Ill have to check and make sure. Sure attendance is down thats a fact but I don't ever recall any time in the past it being down this much at this point in the season. I firmly believe that there is a direct correlation with the most popular rides que line wait times and how busy the park is. Explain to me how two of the parks most popular rides had wait times well under the norm for this particular time in the season? _________________ Greed is what caused GL's demise and that just makes me sick. Lets do what we can to rat out Kinzel - hes a snake. In the end the truth will come out and we will then see whos laughing at who.
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Big Dipper 80 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 120	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: · Quote Attendance has come down everywhere recently, especially with the price of gas. Even the Disney park empire has seen attendance slips, especially with WDW, which gets more and more costly to run each year with the ungodly amount of transportation that place uses. Gas bills out the roof!! But anyways, I was there Sunday as well, and after going the same time last year, I actually thought it was more crowded this year than last. Had to wait for DT and Raptor, both which had zero lines last year. Now, I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything here, but I'm just stating what I noticed. It is quite clear that attendance has fallen (look at cp.com) and this day had more people than usual for a Father's day. But it may have been in part from the ten dollar tickets with the season pass and all. (And yes, I know that wouldn't create a huge attendance spike, but it may have contributed to it.) _________________ First coaster of 2008: Space Mountain Omega Save the Dipper!
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