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reckoniez Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 14	Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: · Quote if it is true that the big dipper will not be operating in it's new home than somebody or everybody should get a hold of all the national news that they basicly destroyed the 9th oldest in the USA and 12th oldest in the world and since it was not capable in allowing it to continue to operate it should be viewed as they are not as stable as they feel they are and send there stock to plummet since they could not keep this historical landmark operating i would contact them if i was not mentally disabled
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djcoastermark Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 47	Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: · Quote i now live in fla, but grew up with GL ,as did my kids (now grown) and my parents.  i too am just sick about THE CLOSING. i return to ohio every few years for my coaster fix and park-a-thon. last year was to be one of those trips where i go back to ohio to GL, cp, KI or Kennywood and even the little park in huntington W Va. but due to a fight with cancer, i had to cancel my trip. i had not been since CF took over, hadnt heard many good things about what was happening, but still wanted to go to GL anyway. it was really my favorite park as a kid and i still remember every bit of the dipper. i really do hope that the new 'owner" of the BD does rebuild it to be ridden again. yes, it will not be the same at a different location but i would love to see her in all her glory again. I guess my point is that though the BD maybe elsewhere, it will still be the dipper. perfect case in point is the starliner coaster here in fla. it was floridas first wooden coaster and located in panama city. it was built by,and one year before, the same person who built the blue streak at cp.(similar to the blue streak, but it has a few really neat elements the streak doesnt have, making it IMHO much better) that park was sold and is being turned into condos. but the owner of our little park here, cypress gardens bought it, moved it and completely restored it .no, its not the same as being by the ocean, but boy is it good to see it running,riding and looking better than ever. So LETS HOPE the new owner will give the dipper as much love and tlc as the starliner. i KNOW i will be there to ride the BD again. you could always close your eyes as your riding and pretend ....... sigh....
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reckoniez Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 14	Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: · Quote i thought at 5pm cedar fair was supposed to decied whether or not it is sold at yet none of the local news has announced anything maybe something will be found out tomorrow if someone goes there and find's out maybe the local news stations will be there again tomorrow and will get the final word either that or we will have to wait until next tuesday for the announcement from the buyer but i still hope we will find out more tomorrow
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Dominator56 Villain User is Offline Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 1259 Location: Akron, Ohio	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: · Quote Katie wrote: coasterdad wrote: Quote: The Big Dipper was the only sale item requiring Cedar Fair's approval. "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home," said Cedar Fair spokesman Robin Innes. Oh friken gag me already! Who makes up this crap? If it was that special to CF it would have been saved a long time ago!!!! I completely agree Coasterdad. When I read that article and the crap spewing from Robin Innes' mouth, profanity came to mind and out loud in front of my husband. I think that is crap and we all know it. They could have taken Dipper down before winter last year to preserve the wood that is on the coaster and saved that coaster from a brutal winter. Any idiot of a company would say "Oh this is a historic coaster....we should preserve it ASAP and then decide what to do with it." Amen to th both of you.....the crap cedar fair spews....and the responses people right to WWK (which I'm sure is probally just a speil they right to everyone) is just a load of (excuse my language) f*cking crap! Nobody in the right mind cares what CF says because we all know they DON'T REALLY CARE. _________________ Geauga Lake I will miss you!
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jeff729 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 198 Location: Cleveland	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: · Quote Yeah, we know it's a bunch of crap. But still, the fact that they said it may hurt their reputation even further. If you publicly state it's a special ride and you want to find it a proper home...and then the next day, you approve its sale to a buyer who openly admits it won't run again... that makes Cedar Fair look even worse than it already did. _________________ Always remember Geauga Lake... And never forget what Cedar Fair did.
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Skyglider Big Dipper User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 815	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: · Quote Sandusky Register says they have until 5 p.m. today to accept or reject. I have no doubt they have already accepted. The guy who bought it says "It will be re-erected, but not as an operating coaster" (Woosnam). http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2008/06/18/front/796350.txt Wonder if it will be a complete reconstruction, if it is just scenery, Woosnam also made it clear to the Columbus Dispatch that he is acting on behalf of the buyer who he is going to move it for. He said ""It means nothing to me," he said. "It just looks like a lot of wood." So don't read much into his demeanor at the auction, he is only expediting the move. We will see who the buyer is, given that Akron's APEX is involved I strongly suspect a local destination. (The planned lifestyle center off of 480 in Twinsburg? Who knows). http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/business/stories/2008/06/18/Geauga.ART_ART_06-18-08_C8_26AH78O. html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101 Woosnam said in other articles that the buyer will be revealed in a week. _________________ "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair's Innes on Big Dipper, 12th oldest roller coaster on Earth. "There will not be a lot more work being done on the property" in 2008 said Innes. CF save BD in 09.
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Skyglider Big Dipper User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 815	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject: · Quote Plain Dealer is confirming APEX/Woosnam bid for Big Dipper has been accepted by Cedar Fair.  He also tried to get Villain and Double Loop (misidentified as "a steel looping coaster called the Arrow") but the scrappers got them.   http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business-6/121377782513490.xml&coll=2 "The Big Dipper was the only item auctioned that required approval from Cedar Fair. Woosnam confirmed Tuesday evening that the company had accepted his bid about 5 p.m." In the very next paragraph we are again reminded how much Cedar Fair cares: "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home," Cedar Fair spokesman Robin Innes had explained earlier in the day." Edited to add that while Carole Sanderson (past president of ACE, so she knows something about coasters) estimated Big Dipper relocation would cost $3.6 million, Woosnam said "he expects it to cost only about $650,000 to tear down and reassemble each wooden coaster over a six-month period."  So that means, if they follow through, they plan to have it down and up in a new location by the end of December 2008. _________________ "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair's Innes on Big Dipper, 12th oldest roller coaster on Earth. "There will not be a lot more work being done on the property" in 2008 said Innes. CF save BD in 09. Last edited by Skyglider on Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:14 am; edited 1 time in total
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IloveGeauga Head Spin User is Offline Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 612 Location: Toledo, Ohio	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: · Quote I, too, think Robin Innes' comment was such a load of CRAP, that I called him on my way to work yesterday afternoon and left him a message telling him what I thought! I first spoke to some Joe Blow that was just answering the phone, and I asked him to leave a message for Robin, and I told him what I thought.  The guy then said: "I can connect you to him directly, ma'am."  I said: "I don't want to talk to him, just give him that message."  He had indicated that I would get his voice mail so I said: "Sure, give me his voicemail, I will leave that message on there." So I did.  I am going to write a few letters too.
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Skyglider Big Dipper User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 815	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: · Quote The more this guy talks, the less clear the picture is.  In a new Record Courier article Brent Hovey reports that Tom Woosnam of APEX Western Machinery Movers says that the coaster will not go to another amusement park, but "the buyer might rebuild it somewhere else" (Hovey's words), plans to be announced in about a week.  "It possibly will be re-erected," Woosnam said. "Probably not to be ridden, but for nostalgic purposes." So as far as what he is saying now, nothing (including reconstruction) is definitely in, and riding is unlikely (but not 100% certainly out). http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/3958341 _________________ "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair's Innes on Big Dipper, 12th oldest roller coaster on Earth. "There will not be a lot more work being done on the property" in 2008 said Innes. CF save BD in 09.
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Radius Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 31	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: · Quote "Relax.  It's just a message board." BULLSEYE!!!! You just saved me the trouble of going to that site since those will be the exact comments i would have read.  Thanks Ray...
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Skyglider Big Dipper User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 815	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: · Quote WKYC updated their article to report that "Sources familiar with media outlets in Kansas City say they suspect The Big Dipper will be moved there btu (sic) could not confirm a specific location." http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=91687&catid=45 _________________ "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair's Innes on Big Dipper, 12th oldest roller coaster on Earth. "There will not be a lot more work being done on the property" in 2008 said Innes. CF save BD in 09.
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TBone8n69 Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 224 Location: Akron,oh	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: · Quote We should all start a group called "ACFG" (Anti-Cedar Fair Group) to help remind others out there that cedar fair is like supporting George Bush, both are wrong,greedy old men planning on destroying america's tradition. Just check these sites below and read some shocking stuff that most people don't even know about. Make sure to spread the word, as more people who know, the better! (The Truth shall set us free) http://www.infowars.com/?p=2278 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&pr=goog-sl _________________ (ACFG)Anti-Cedar Fair Group
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Katie Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 278 Location: Canfield, OH	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: · Quote http://groups.myspace.com/againstCedarFair Here ya go. Anyone can join. Please do so. _________________ Katie http://groups.myspace.com/againstCedarFair www.cnajunkies.com/board
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Skippy Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 101 Location: Stow, OH	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: · Quote TBone8n69 wrote: We should all start a group called "ACFG" (Anti-Cedar Fair Group) to help remind others out there that cedar fair is like supporting George Bush, both are wrong,greedy old men planning on destroying america's tradition. Just check these sites below and read some shocking stuff that most people don't even know about. Make sure to spread the word, as more people who know, the better! (The Truth shall set us free) http://www.infowars.com/?p=2278 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&pr=goog-sl Dude you need to calm down, this isn't the topic for conspiracy theories I'll join the ACFG with you. CF lied about closing the park and now they lied about offering ACE Dipper (why would they purposely want to piss them off?) That guy said he could move and reconstruct it for less than predicted, which means it going to be horribly reconstructed just for looks (no touchy). CF, no one has me more pissed off than you do. You rejected ACE's bid but what more infuriating is you didn't even give them a chance to get the coaster. You never offered the park to other amusement park companies but knew from the get go you rather see it become a housing development. No one related to me will be visiting a CF park for years to come (I sent them all a list of parks to avoid). I trust everyone here and at ACE is doing the same _________________ CFVIP wrote: Whenever CP does something amazing you always have to contradict the truth. Everyone needs to understand that CP does amazing things, but there is a conspiracy out there to keep this truth from you.
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Lights062393 Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 55	Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: · Quote I'm not sure why Norton even felt the need to announce that CF offered the BD to ACE before they started the bidding. It was like CF wanted to get in one more shot at ACE or more likely, more positive publicity for themselves. Did this offering have anything at all to do with the sale of the BD? NO!!!  My other question is this. If ACE is one of the four groups that put in bids on the land, and there bid was based on them getting the BD, then why would CF offer them the BD for free, without announcing their plans for the land?  And if ACE had a bid in on the land and was hoping they would obtain the BD, then why would they turn down the offer from CF? None of it makes sense unless CF was lying completely.
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