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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Interesting Cedar Fair Quotes · Quote The Big Dipper -- A Very Special Ride "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair spokesperson, June 17, 2008 to the Cleveland Plain Dealer about the Big Dipper http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/06/landmark_big_dipper_attracts_t.html (The context was Cedar Fair's approval of the buyer of the historic Big Dipper, the only ride for which it reserved the right of approval. Remember that quote if it comes to pass that the buyer's plan involves demolition and scrapping.) _________________ "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair Spokesman Innes on Big Dipper, 12th oldest roller coaster on Earth. Last edited by Skyglider on Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:23 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: · Quote Kinzel on Food Prices "During These Weak Economic Times" "We've been able to pass along higher food costs very easily," he said. "When people come to the park, they have to eat." Richard L. Kinzel, August 5, 2008 Cleveland Plain Dealer article http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/08/attendance_up_3_at_cedar_fair.html "The weakness is in merchandise and games and admissions per capita. Food prices we've been able to pass along very easily the increases there and when people come to the park they have to eat. They're here for an average length of stay of anywhere from six to nine hours depending on the park, so they're always going to have hopefully one meal and a couple of soft drinks during the day and some ice cream. So our food per capita is where we thought it would be. It's strong at all of the parks. However, during these weak economic times people just will not play games and they don't take home a souvenir with them." Richard L. Kinzel, Quarterly Conference Call, transcript courtesy of Seeking Alpha: http://seekingalpha.com/article/89280-cedar-fair-entertainment-company-q2-2008-earnings-call-transcr ipt?source=yahoo&page=7 "When we have economic times like the way we have now, people will come to the park, and they certainly are going to eat," Kinzel said. "But they will cut out picking up a souvenir or playing the games." And when they eat, they'll pay. Kinzel said the company expects to pass rising food costs on to customers. Richard L. Kinzel, May 6, 2008 Cleveland.com article http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/05/cedar_fair_hoping_for_good_yea.html
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: · Quote Geauga Lake Closing Denials “The rumors of the demise of Geauga Lake, or that we’re slowly phasing it out, are completely untrue.” “Geauga Lake is here to stay.” Cedar Fair official, April 5, 2007, Cleveland.com article, “Rumors of Geauga Lake’s demise ‘completely untrue.’” (I guess they just meant the water in the actual lake). Last edited by Skyglider on Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:57 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: · Quote Timing of Decision to Close Geauga Lake Amusement Park "Our Board of Directors made the decision yesterday afternoon that the market demand simply isn't there to support the park as it's currently structured. The decision was made to operate the park exclusively as a water park only." Friday, September 21, 2007, Cedar Fair Director of Investor Relations Stacy Frole, interview with Leon Bibb on Channel 5. http://www.newsnet5.com/video/14176226/index.html (I guess that is why they did not give notice before the end of the season. However, they somehow were able to get companies to begin deconstruction on the following Monday. Permits & plans magically appeared for the new homes for Thunderhawk, Dominator and the seven relocated KidsWorks Rides. Company officials also made a point of taking the last ride of 2007 on the Big Dipper, lucky coincidence for them?) (By the way, what changed since the "here to stay" statements in April 2007? -- average daily attendance in 2007 seemed to be up from 2006) Last edited by Skyglider on Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:17 pm; edited 5 times in total
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: · Quote New and Exciting: Addition by Subtraction “Visiting Geauga Lake is a 119-year-old tradition in northeastern Ohio.  That tradition will continue, but in a new and exciting way” -- entirely as a water park. Richard L. Kinzel, September 21, 2007 press release http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/press_releases/index.cfm (So 2 parks minus 1 park, leaving 1 park with nothing new for 2008 = new and exciting?) Last edited by Skyglider on Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:55 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: · Quote Geauga Lake's Wildwater Kingdom Is Doomed "Over the past three seasons, we have invested approximately $25 million to create and develop the premiere water park in northeastern Ohio. Since its opening in 2005, Wildwater Kingdom has been the park's highest rated attribute." Richard L. Kinzel, September 21, 2007 press release http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/press_releases/index.cfm Q: Will you continue to put money into the water parks? A [Richard Kinzel]: Water is a cheaper alternative to rides. You have to keep putting different elements in. At Carowind's we're putting a wave pool in, but still you're talking $3.5 million. It depends on the market; you have to keep refreshing. Q: Do you get more bang for your buck on the water parks? A [Kinzel]: No, the margins are much lower at the water parks. The reason for that is it's tough for people to carry money and when they get wet, they don't like to buy merchandise, they don't like to play games. It's tough to buy food with wet money. We're looking at ways of having a debit card inside the water park so people don't have to carry money. Q: Last fall, the decision was made to remove the rides from Geauga Lake near Cleveland and operate it as only a water park this year. How tough was that decision? A [Kinzel]: For me, it was very difficult to do, because it was my idea, my reputation to spend $144 million to buy it. But the numbers just weren't there. It was really the right answer to close it because it was losing money. Now our plan is to have the largest water park in the state of Ohio. Richard L. Kinzel, May 12, 2008, AP article: http://www.ohio.com/news/ap?articleID=524294&c=y Announced WWK additions for 2009: None Rumored WWK Additions for 2009: Norton Auctioneers and condos Ohio's largest waterpark? Don't know about the acreage, but Zoombezi Bay in Columbus (which happens to have an affiliated amusement park with dry rides and zoo with animal exhibits right next to it) is booming: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/life/stories/2008/08/09/1_ZOOMBEZI.ART_ART_08-09-08_D1_0HAV271. html?sid=101
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: · Quote No Full Day of Fun at Kennywood? From WKYC on June 20, 2008: "Competing parks, like Kennywood in Pennsylvania, are trying to lure away the Cedar Point audience from Cleveland. 'They are a nice park, but if you want to have a full day of fun, this [Cedar Point] is the place to be,' Robin Innes, a Cedar Fair marketing employee, said." http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=91914&catid=3 Last edited by Skyglider on Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: · Quote "Cedar Fair's Commitment to Integrity"   "Cedar Fair Entertainment Company is firmly committed to the principles of honesty, integrity and fairness in all aspects of its business relationships with vendors, customers, employees, investors and others." http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/company/contactinfo.cfm _________________ "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair Spokesman Innes on Big Dipper, 12th oldest roller coaster on Earth.
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Flyingscooter Riptide Run User is Offline Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 357 Location: Cleveland	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: · Quote BRAVO!!! man, You rock! _________________ Great Lakes Brewery: Buy beer, buy local! -Mark
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Catchthebrassring Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 256	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: · Quote Way to go, you definitely rock!! Wonder what amusementpark7 and all the other foker's have to say about all those quotes. Conspiracy anyone? _________________ "Be ashamed to die until you have achieved some victory for humanity."  Horace Mann Geauga Lake will always remain in our hearts and memories. On June 17th & 18 2008 dick drove the final 2 nails into the coffin of our beloved Geauga Lake
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carioque41 Raging Wolf Bobs User is Offline Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 411	Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: · Quote Can  I barf....now....I won't believe it til I see it!
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villainess Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 152 Location: parma	Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: · Quote Skyglider wrote: (By the way, what changed since the "here to stay" statements in April 2007? -- average daily attendance in 2007 seemed to be up from 2006) Yeah, and that increased attendance was with a shorter season and (some) shorter operating hours! _________________ R.I.P. Thriller, 1969 R.I.P. Villain, 2007 Feel The Wind
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djrobbiorobbio Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Cleveland, OH	Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: · Quote Skyglider wrote: "Cedar Fair's Commitment to Integrity"   "Cedar Fair Entertainment Company is firmly committed to the principles of honesty, integrity and fairness in all aspects of its business relationships with vendors, customers, employees, investors and others." http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/company/contactinfo.cfm I almost pissed myself after reading that one.  Oh man....those stupid 5 cornerstones that seemingly only apply to seasonal employees, and not their full-time morons. I forgot Cedar Fair operated "ethically" _________________ Familiarity breeds contempt....
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Dominator56 Villain User is Offline Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 1283 Location: Akron, Ohio	Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: · Quote Its rather shocking that any of this actually came from Cedar Fair... oh how they eat their own words. Bunch of duma**'s if you ask me. _________________ Geauga Lake I will miss you!
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1103	Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: · Quote Geauga Lake's Wildwater Kingdom Is Really Doomed "Water is a cheaper alternative to rides. You have to keep putting different elements in. . . . you have to keep refreshing. . . . Now our plan is to have the largest water park in the state of Ohio. Richard L. Kinzel, May 12, 2008, AP article: http://www.ohio.com/news/ap?articleID=524294&c=y WWK additions for 2009: None "Wildwater Kingdom's big off-season project won't bring a new attraction to the park, Ms. Murphy said, but it should make for a nicer environment: The water-ski show stadium on the lakefront is being demolished, which will open up the lake view." Crain's Cleveland Business, September 22, 2008: http://clevelandbusiness.com/article/20080922/FREE/309229926 _________________ "It's a very special ride. We want to make sure it has a proper home." Cedar Fair Spokesman Innes on Big Dipper, 12th oldest roller coaster on Earth. Last edited by Skyglider on Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
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