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AmusementFan123 Riptide Run User is Offline Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Posts: 300	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: · Quote Why not? It saved them last year. I bet it will again this year. _________________ Cedar Point: The BEST amusement park on the planet for 12 years in a row! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1jeYY0yEo
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John Peck Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Columbus, Ohio USA	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: · Quote I don't think it's fair to say that Halloweekends "saved" the park last year... in this day in age of longer seasons, attendance is spread differently. I'm putting my number one blame on the Detroit market, (which is CP's 2nd largest market) they have been building lousy cars for years and with all the layoffs caused by the greedy idiots running GM and Chrysler, its effecting many businesses. Yahoo news stated today that some plants may go back into production to meet the demands of the cash for clunkers plan, so we'll have to watch and see if the fear has gone away and people start spending money again.
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AmusementFan123 Riptide Run User is Offline Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Posts: 300	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: · Quote ^The GM CEO that Obama fired actually lives right down the road from me. His house is so awesome. He is a really nice guy though. He was one of the sensible guys in the auto industry. _________________ Cedar Point: The BEST amusement park on the planet for 12 years in a row! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1jeYY0yEo
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 2155	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: · Quote AmusementFan123 wrote: .....He was one of the sensible guys in the auto industry. Hehehe...not quite. The only part you got right is the word "was". _________________ GL's demise was caused by one mans foolish greed. In the end the truth will come out as it always does.
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John Peck Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Columbus, Ohio USA	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject: · Quote ^ If he was so sensible, then why was he fired? I'll tell you what non-theme park CEO's to give praise to right now... the CEO's of Ford and JP Morgan Chase, and of course, Steve Jobs of Apple.
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AmusementFan123 Riptide Run User is Offline Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Posts: 300	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: · Quote The fact that a President fired him disgusts me. I mean, do you really want government controlling this much? Kind of like the new health-care plan. You want socialized medicine? My friends brother works for Obama and even he said he was disgusted when Obama fired him. Obama seems to care more about raising the debt than helping the economy. Wagoner is a good family man and tried his best for GM. He may have not done things right, but he is a very nice man and so is his family. He tried his best for the company. _________________ Cedar Point: The BEST amusement park on the planet for 12 years in a row! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1jeYY0yEo
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 2155	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: · Quote He might have been a nice man, but his work ethic sucked, someone needed to get rid of him, good riddance and thank you Obama. _________________ GL's demise was caused by one mans foolish greed. In the end the truth will come out as it always does.
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ChadV Raging Wolf Bobs User is Offline Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 438	Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: · Quote The government bought the stock and exercised their voting options to remove the CEO.  If they hadn't, then the CEO would still be out, just from GM being in Chapter 7. I'm not saying Wagoner isn't a good person or that he didn't try...  I'm just saying that GM almost imploded under his watch, so the stockholders (which happened to include the gov't) asked him to leave so someone else could try.
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AmusementFan123 Riptide Run User is Offline Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Posts: 300	Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: · Quote He probably did need to go, but Obama should have never been the one to fire him. I still wish McCain would have won. He would be handling this all so much better. _________________ Cedar Point: The BEST amusement park on the planet for 12 years in a row! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1jeYY0yEo
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ChadV Raging Wolf Bobs User is Offline Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 438	Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: · Quote Without a VP, because she would've resigned to go do something else.   But that's neither here nor there.
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John Peck Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Columbus, Ohio USA	Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:41 am    Post subject: · Quote A couple things: I'll agree with Chad here... As the main lender of the bailout, the government had the voting rights to do anything they wanted, that's why it's good that Ford decided against the bailout...they knew they would lose their independence.... whew! McCain would have definitely handled things differently... and that's a good thing. Did you know that when the bailouts were voted into Congress, that they voted THEMSELVES a $4700 per member raise... (yes, thats OUR money) that's what George W. was trying to avoid. The US car industry is a tricky venture... while GM was trying to keep up with Honda And Toyota, Toyota and Honda were looking to build cars like Mercedes and BMW... performance-wise, and MORE reliable.... GM never tried hard enough to clear the bar, and Chrysler is trying to find the starting mark.. even still. Ford get it, their CEO toured a Toyota Plant in Japan and actually owns a Lexus. So again, had things been done differently, Detroit and Cleveland would be in a better position years ago, and we wouldn't have had to worry about substantial job losses in this market and the loss of our Geauga. It'll get better.
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Skyglider Tidal Wave Bay User is Offline Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1102	Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: · Quote AmusementFan123 wrote: He probably did need to go, but Obama should have never been the one to fire him. I still wish McCain would have won. He would be handling this all so much better. There you go again. Trying to stir up heated political fights.   (Guess I should explain that first part is a Ronald Reagan quote, he was President back in the 1900s, before the time of some folks around here.)
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thunderop Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 57	Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: · Quote coasterdad wrote: CP will have large crowds for Halloweends, but there is no way it will compensate for the poor attendance they had this summer. You make it sound like there was a huge dip in attendance. Attendance has been down at EVERY park, but the per capita spending per guest has increased so every park is returning profit. _________________ 2009 - Cedar Point - Giant Wheel Tri/Blue Streak 2008 - Cedar Point - Raptor - Crew Member 2007 - Thunderhawk - Crew Member
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Ray P Coral Cove User is Offline Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 500	Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: · Quote I went to Cedar Point back in July. It was fun, but not as good at Chicago that's for sure. We stayed at our house and ate outside the park. OK place. _________________ http://rayp.smugmug.com
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 2155	Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: · Quote I also made it to the Windy City this past summer to visit my brother and do some sightseeing. Although there wasn't much concrete or great restaurants like Dave's Famous Ribs, they do have many other fine dining establishments and bars. Being a musician I could spend all week listening to a different band every night, unlike other "worlds best everything tourist destinations" that have cheap Karaoke entertainment. All in all I would some up my Chicago experience as FUN. _________________ GL's demise was caused by one mans foolish greed. In the end the truth will come out as it always does.
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