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dsloban Thunderhawk User is Offline Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 1075	Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Six Flags · Quote I was checking out on screamscape about the Six Flag rumors.... What do you think is happening with them? Are they growing or falling apart?
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Alex Liquid Lightning User is Offline Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 988	Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: · Quote I do see a few parks that they apparently don't give a crap about, but as we are learning in every big company their is a few parks the company can careless about. For awhile this summer it looked as if SF was coming around to be a great industry, do I think they are declining, not sure. _________________ TOP 5 FAVORITE RIDES: 1.Maverick. 2. BATMAN KNIGHT FLIGHT( forever at SFWOA). 3.X-flight( forever at SFWOA). 4. Millenuem Force. 5. Phantoms reveng
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kevster Big Dipper User is Offline Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 899	Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: · Quote I think they're in an era where they need to correct their mistakes, but at the same time build more rides. I'm gettin a little sick about this Thomas Town & Wiggles World stuff (what happened to lunny tunes?) I like the fact that they are starting to put pride into Magic Moutain by repainting Ninja & Viper (probably extra Ninja paint). X2 is a little expencive but I also think that that's the right thing to do in order to change the rides image. Pycycolne & Flashback needed to go. FlashBack has been sitting since 2003 (what a flashback!) and Pycyclone is just an abused woodie. SixFlags Kentucky Kingdom from what I've herd is up for sale (mixed thoughts) It seems like The Great Escape is not getting much action as far as additions go. Six Flags New Orleans was a bad idea from the begining (I guess the whole city was) I think the current CEO is doing good things and doing the best he can. Great Topic! Six Flags is an interesting company.
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Gunkey Monkey Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1102 Location: Cleveland, Ohio	Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: · Quote Some very good replies so far and I have to agree with Kevster - they are trying to correct their mistakes. They have to correct their image.  They have always been focused on teens hence all the major coaster additions of the past decade. I think it's great that they are focused on the families right now. Looney Tunes characters, even though they could be considered one of the best cartoon franchises, is an old property. They don't show them on TV like they did when I was a kid.  Thomas the Tank Engine is somewhat more recent and the Wiggles are very popular.  Everything comes in phases. Even though it's Disney be thankful we don't have Hanna Montana Land popping up anywhere. The potential sale of Kentucky Kingdom may indicate that either the company is still a bit too big or they can't really expand the product at that park.  KK is in a rather odd location - landlocked by the fairgrounds as well as being on the doorstep of Standiford Airport.  That park should have moved to a new location a looong time ago. Magic Mountain right now is something I take much interest in.  I'd like to see what the new regime has in store to revive that park and its reputation.  What I find really intriguing is the rumor of SF actually downsizing the park by completely closing off the back area where Psyclone used to be. However to plunk down another $10 million just to retrofit X into X2 isn't exactly a bright move either but I can see as that is the landmark ride in that park.  That money should be used to get new modern flats as they seem to be getting rid of quite a few older ones. I also find it interesting of the amount of rides they have put up for sale.  Other than the first gen freefalls there were a few flat rides and even a chutes put on the market. I was actually surprised yet expecting them to pull Deja Vu out of Great America since they are already pulling out the one in Georgia.  With not much being posted about its down time I figured they got most of the bugs worked out of it. Now I'm kicking myself for not trying to get out there this past summer to get more rides on it. I expect Magic Mountain's to go as well. The New Orleans park may be considered a bad idea but they figured with New Orleans being a major tourist destination, why not?  It was rumored that they wanted to build a water park and if they would have followed through with that I think things may have turned around there. But a gal named Katrina destroyed any hope for that park. _________________ On September 21, 2007, a historic 119-year old amusement park had been secretly murdered. Never forget it.
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VekomaRulz Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 40	Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: · Quote The problem I have with SF now is that they think family only means preschool rides. Pefect example is at Magic Mountain. They are removing the antique cars for a Thomas Town. Antique cars are the perfect family ride and something everyone can go on, while everyone over 5 or 6 will likely not be interested in Thomas Town. At Great Adventure they have 4 kids areas. Yet there are very few flats and even less family rides. Where is the traditional/interactive dark ride (Dark Knight doesn't count to me since it's still a coaster), train ride, antique cars, or any slow moving type family rides? Prices are through the roof and not very family friendly either. $3.50 for a 20oz Coke, $6.50 for 1 slice of Papa John's Pizza?! I think they need to lower prices and try to have a variety of rides in their parks I also don't think they are taking the parks themselves into consideration when figuring out what rides to add. The Dark Knight makes no sense at Great Adventure or Great America. Great America already has a mouse and with the crowds Great Adventure gets, the line is going to be 2+ hours easily. And if they follow a rule of a certain # of adults per car like Dorney or Great America's current mouse, lines will be even worse since a group of 4 teenagers or adults will have to take seperate cars.
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Alex Liquid Lightning User is Offline Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 988	Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: · Quote Well, I like SF for the fact that I had my most fun at an amusement park owned by SF aka SFWOA. One thing I dislike about SF is that at every park they seem to have the same coasters and not too many flats. Their is this one Batman ride they have everywhere. When you look at photos of the ride they are the same as the ones on other parks. They need a more variety of coasters and different names. I would like to see more flats at SFGA, because that place looks sweet and I'm going their next year. They made a few mistake but I'll bet about 10-15 years down the rode most of them will be fixed. I seen this and I'm not sure if I'm getting it right but a pass to all their parks next year is $50 till December 31, 2007. If this is true I'm buying one very very soon, as I might become a big SF fan. Here's what the site says. http://www.sixflags.com/national/tickets/seasonpass.aspx _________________ TOP 5 FAVORITE RIDES: 1.Maverick. 2. BATMAN KNIGHT FLIGHT( forever at SFWOA). 3.X-flight( forever at SFWOA). 4. Millenuem Force. 5. Phantoms reveng
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kevster Big Dipper User is Offline Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 899	Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: · Quote I know Big Spin & Dark Knight are clones but it seems like Six Flags's new CEO is trying to build quality in their parks. For instance, Tony Hawk's Big Spin is a clone ride but if you look a pics on the ride and the setting the disigners create you can really tell that eventhough it's a clone the Six Flags "Immagineers" put a lot of pride into not just the ride it's self but the theming that surounds it. Ok, lets compare it to Dominator, Dominator was probably a $20 million ride. They put a cheap & cheesy station building on it with an interior of plywood & an extierior of some fake stone & bricks. They could of made this expencive ride also have a really cool station and scenery but they just go cheap with everything else. I think the new CEO's eyes see quality over quanity and that's going to change Six Flags's image.
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chadta Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 179 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada	Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: · Quote if six flags still had darien lake i would buy a pass, there just inst a 6 flags close to me tho, i would like to make another trip to the great escape to ride the comet again, its just not the same not being on the shores of lake erie tho.
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Gunkey Monkey Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1102 Location: Cleveland, Ohio	Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: · Quote Great Adventure added 20+ flat rides in 1999 as a "war on lines" but eventually many were scrapped or relocated to other parks (GL's former Pirate's Flight came from there). I guess they just couldn't get them to work right or they couldn't get enough people to staff them. Great America still has a very high number of flat rides (though I believe Triple Play, the Huss Troika, is leaving, that bites, and Trailblazer, the Zamperla Rainbow themed as a Conestoga wagon, was removed this past year). But Six Flags has also had decent, quality theming.  Look at Golden Kingdom at Great Adventure. _________________ On September 21, 2007, a historic 119-year old amusement park had been secretly murdered. Never forget it.
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Alex Liquid Lightning User is Offline Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 988	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: · Quote I'm buying the passes, because last year when I went down to DC I badly wanted to go to SFA. It was a $54.99 admission that included their waterpark. Anyways I went their with my cousin, becuase my mom didn't have enough to get herself in because it didn't fit her budget. I figured if I buy the passes for $50 a piece I can go their when I want when I visit DC next year. Also I will visit SFGA, SFKK, and SFOG. I thinks it's one of the best deals I've ever seen and it makes me want to live in Jersey. _________________ TOP 5 FAVORITE RIDES: 1.Maverick. 2. BATMAN KNIGHT FLIGHT( forever at SFWOA). 3.X-flight( forever at SFWOA). 4. Millenuem Force. 5. Phantoms reveng
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chadta Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 179 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:54 am    Post subject: · Quote Alex wrote: I thinks it's one of the best deals I've ever seen and it makes me want to live in Jersey. NOthing could make me want to live in jersey
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dsloban Thunderhawk User is Offline Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 1075	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: six flags · Quote Does anyone think that six flags would consider building a park anywhere in Ohio?
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kevster Big Dipper User is Offline Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 899	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: · Quote No, I really don't think Six Flags wants to be opperating Waterparks (eventhough the have some really great ones). They just sold three or four of them. As for what Gunkey said about Six Flags and their theming, I agree, I saw some pictures of the Golden Kingdom at SixFlags Great Adventure and I was really impressed. It almost looks like Disney quality and it was all built over the parking lot. Six Flags Great Adventure is almost like a little Disney with three parks (they just need a hotel). It's too bad they sold Geauga Lake because I could see with all that extra land it could of became a little resort. They could of turned the whole Hurricane Harbor into rides and that big triangle parcel of land across the street from Raging Wolf Bobs could of been made into the new waterpark. Then Six Flags could buy that whole block of houses near Sea World and turn that all into more wildlife. Then The hotel could be torn down and converted into a indoor waterpark larger then Kalihari with a bridge going over Treat Road with more indoor waterpark across the street. With all this and about 4 more world class coasters Six Flags Worlds of Adventure would kill Cedar Point and become the Disney of the north.
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Alex Liquid Lightning User is Offline Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 988	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: · Quote OMG their is no doubt that GL could have been built up bigger than what CP could never be. You know who saw that, Dick and you know what he did? He pulled the Ohio massacre. _________________ TOP 5 FAVORITE RIDES: 1.Maverick. 2. BATMAN KNIGHT FLIGHT( forever at SFWOA). 3.X-flight( forever at SFWOA). 4. Millenuem Force. 5. Phantoms reveng
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dsloban Thunderhawk User is Offline Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 1075	Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: six flags · Quote I wonder as many of you wonder what would have happened if Six Flags would have kept Geauga Lake? I wonder if it still  would have been growing or iwould have it crashed?
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