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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject:
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SF sold it because CF gave them a deal that they couldn't refuse. This has been verified by two official sources.

In its day SFWoA had as many GOOD coasters as CP and and with the hyper on the way it would really have given a certain park a run for its money.

If SF was still around in Aurora it would truly have been competition and a vacation destination. CF knew exactly what could happen with that property.

They bought it to kill it. Believe it or not but the truth will eventually come out.
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject:
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^^I don't think Six Flags would have pulled the plug on SFWoA. You forget a whole new regime had taken over after the sale to CF so who knows what would have happened. I don't think Snyder/Shapiro would have wanted to close the park. They probably would have downsized a bit.

Keep in mind the closing of Astroworld came from the Kieran Burke era. If I remember right Snyder tried to stop the former execs from doing it.

Even to this day I miss having a Six Flags season pass.
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject:
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Thats why I miss Six Flags Ownership, we didn't even get to see the shipiro era of Six Flags...wonderful things could have been in place for the park. Kieran Burke is much like our "Dick". Its the same, both evil.
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject:
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CFVIP wrote:
Here's something some of you don't understand. Some of you say SF was the good days. Well hate to break it to you but SF would have closed the park even if CF didn't buy it. IF SF never wanted to sell the park, the park would have gotten worse each year. GL would have been gone even sooner than 2007.


From a reliable source, Six Flags admitted it was a mistake when they bought Sea World, but was originally going to keep Geauga Lake but CF made them an offer they couldn't refuse. CF considered Geauga Lake competition so they sabatoged it and using flimsey excuse of low attendance closed it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject:
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Six Flags isn't doing well financially still today. My coaster club states if things don't improve financially this season they will be selling 1-2 parks. Which ones will they close do you think?? I hope they sell the International parks and keep the ones in the USA.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject:
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If this is true I could see La Ronde and Six Flags Mexico get sold. They were smart to get rid of the Walibi parks. They should have never entered the European market.

As for stateside they've mostly been selling off the smaller parks the past few years so I can see Kentucky Kingdom and Great Escape possibly getting axed from the chain.

I think Six Flags America could be on the block since it supposely hasn't been run well the past few years either.

Personally they should just stick with the core parks - SFNE, SFGAdv, SFoT, SFoG, SFStL, and SFMM but that would leave Fiesta Texas and Discovery Kingdom sort of in limbo.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject:
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CF should buy up Fiesta Texas and Discovery Kingdom and save the day!  Laughing
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject:
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Yea you know they will have some $$ after these Geauga Lake sales..why not...lol. Wink
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject:
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I don't understand the love and loyalty that some out there share for Cedar Fair...
Even at Cedar Point, the product has declined since CF began this growth. (Growth... as in tumor)
Six Flags in Ohio offered something that makes all business enterprize better- competition. When a monopoly is created everything gets ugly... the desire to make a product better declines. You can't argue that this wasn't the case. Cedar Point has been allowed to look dirtier, paint is fading, there is less and less atmosphere and theme... the whole park has become a one trick pony... thrill or else! Rather than fix was was wrong with CP, it certainly seems that they decided upon a "quick fix"... by the other area park with a stronger "family" presence and get rid of it. Had Six Flags continued to own and operate Geauga Lake, they would have stayed with the park. Attendance was not an issue... maybe operating costs... maybe the animal park would have closed... but there is no doubt that the park would have remained. And BOTH CP and GL/WoA would be better today for it!
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject:
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yeah but big business ate up our park and just like when you were a kid playing baseball with the neighborhood kids there is always onelittle booger that gets mad  and takes his ball home so nobody can play  and our little  booger  is dastardly dick and he just took the ball away so  we can't play any longer
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject:
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I just re-read this entire thread and a few things come to mind...

1. Six Flags had stated that they made a mistake by purchsing Sea World. So if Six Flags didn't buy it back in 2001, would Busch have closed it themselves? I really doubt another operator would come in and buy a stand alone animal park.

2. Since Six Flags bought Sea World and with the previous statement in mind, would Six Flags have downsized the animals and added more rides to that side of the lake (whether new or relocated)?

3. Seeing that Six Flags is charging outrageous parking prices (at SFGAm they are charging $15 for regular parking and $25 for premium), would we have seen this gouging here?

It seems to me that the various Thomas Towns and Wiggles Worlds have been pretty well received. They have balanced the kiddie rides with mid-sized thrills like Tony Hawk's Big Spin and Evel Knievel. It's all about finding the perfect balance and that is what the new Six Flags is trying to do.

Despite the company as a whole not doing well, they can't just sit and do nothing. It's an industry where in order to make money, you have to spend it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject:
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A few things came to mind to me too!
1] had they slowed things down with expansions how would of their seasons been?

2] if they had not given up the park to cedar fair, would they still be successful with the economy just like it is?

3] had they not purchased Sea World and done the same expantions as when they owned the ride side...when they gave up the park....would cedar fair taken better care and would they of purchased sea world?

4] Also if cedar fair ever admitted closing geauga lake was a mistake...how would they be doing today if they finally decided to take care of it?

These are just questions that don't run through the minds of big CEO's whether its CF or SF, but I still wonder.
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