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raising4daughters Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 20 Location: Cleveland, OH	Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Alternatives for Akron and Catnon · Quote ChadV wrote: So while these are all great suggestions for a family or individual... what about company outings? Where do companies and unions in Akron and Canton go for their summer picnics now that Geauga Lake is gone? Waterworks?  WWK?  The Local Muni. Pool? Great points.  I know two companies on the Northeast side of Cleveland (Mentor, Ashtabula) that moved theirs to Waldameer, but that's a hike for a company outing for Akronites and Cantonites. WWK (or any water-only park) is risky for a company outing in NE Ohio.  What if it rains?  What about people who don't look so hot in swimming trunks or bathing suits?  The loss of GL leaves a big void since the nearest amusement parks are all a good 2-hour commute for you the Ak-Can area. How about an Akron Aeros or Akron Racers game?
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stormchaser889 Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 174	Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: · Quote IloveGeauga wrote: Akiva, I applaud you for not working with Cedar Fair anymore! Awesome!!!!  Thank you.... Haha, I'm looking into working at another Cedar Fair park next year... but which one would it be...? _________________ 2009 - Ride/Game Operator (Victorian Gardens in Central Park) 2008 - Comet Hollow Group (Hersheypark) 2007 - Double Loop/Carousel - Team Member (Geauga Lake) ------------------ What ride am I working at? Find out at http://twitter.com/akivacp
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IloveGeauga Head Spin User is Offline Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 646 Location: Toledo, Ohio	Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: · Quote NOOOO! Don't do it!!!!!
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ChadV Raging Wolf Bobs User is Offline Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 438	Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Alternatives for Akron and Catnon · Quote raising4daughters wrote: Great points.  I know two companies on the Northeast side of Cleveland (Mentor, Ashtabula) that moved theirs to Waldameer, but that's a hike for a company outing for Akronites and Cantonites. WWK (or any water-only park) is risky for a company outing in NE Ohio.  What if it rains?  What about people who don't look so hot in swimming trunks or bathing suits?  The loss of GL leaves a big void since the nearest amusement parks are all a good 2-hour commute for you the Ak-Can area. How about an Akron Aeros or Akron Racers game? We've done the Aeros game once, and it was pretty fun, but we didn't arrange any kind of picnic or food, just free tickets in a large cluster...
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kingsisland Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Dayton-Cincinnati Metro	Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: · Quote Kings Island is a great alternative to Geauga Lake When me and my friends took a visit to Geauga in 2007, we fell in love with the park. It was a great coaster/classic park.  We kind of saw it coming that they would downsize, because we only had to wait in line for the waterpark. Kings Island is great for many many reasons.  it has won the Golden Ticket Award for Best Kids Area for 8 consecutive years.  Itfeatures many classic rides like the racer and the beast, and jaw-dropping thrill rides like 315 foot Drop Zone, 230 Feet DiamondBack, and an old GL favorite, Firehawk formerly X-Flight.  The location is great for a weekend trip because it is next to the Great Wolf Lodge (trust me on this, best resort north of florida) Plus KI is between Dayton and Cincy, so there are many other regional places to visit like the Air Force Museum and the Newport Aquarium. If you love Geauga Lake, Kings island has the same type of feel to itand it won't replace it, but let's not kill another park......well i guess six flags is to bame for GL's death
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swdaze Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 253	Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: · Quote I keep forgetting that SF closed GL, not CF.  I can't stand people that make CF look so blameless.  Especially after they did nothing year after year except remove major rides and add nothing new.  Hmmm...SF was so awful. And the thing with KI...it used to be worth the trip south.  The last time I went, which was 2 years ago, I was sort of disappointed.  With the exception of Nickelodeon Universe, it is nothing special.  The coasters did not even excite me and the shows were boring.  I used to love KI back in the early 90's...but it seems to be losing something that used to make it unique.  Maybe I'm just getting old? KW offers so much more when it comes to price and ride selection...and food.  KW has a more relaxed atmosphere than most parks.  I think if I decide to drive south, I'll be heading to Hoilday World, never been there.
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kingsisland Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Dayton-Cincinnati Metro	Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: · Quote swdaze wrote: I keep forgetting that SF closed GL, not CF.  I can't stand people that make CF look so blameless.  Especially after they did nothing year after year except remove major rides and add nothing new.  Hmmm...SF was so awful. And the thing with KI...it used to be worth the trip south.  The last time I went, which was 2 years ago, I was sort of disappointed.  With the exception of Nickelodeon Universe, it is nothing special.  The coasters did not even excite me and the shows were boring.  I used to love KI back in the early 90's...but it seems to be losing something that used to make it unique.  Maybe I'm just getting old? KW offers so much more when it comes to price and ride selection...and food.  KW has a more relaxed atmosphere than most parks.  I think if I decide to drive south, I'll be heading to Hoilday World, never been there. Cedar Fair, did not intend to kill the park, they were just stupid to buy it.  Six Flags overexpanded it sooo far that they couldn't make a revenue over the costs of the rides and maintenance.  Cedar Fair fixed up the rides, and had to remove a few rides and began to spruce up the area until 07 lost too much money, so they had to go through an extreme downsize. If Cedar Fair never bought the park, it would have been closed probably around 06 by Six Flags, and NOTHING would be left....
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Gunkey Monkey Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1102 Location: Cleveland, Ohio	Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: · Quote While Kings Island is my favorite Ohio park it is, however, owned by the Evil Empire (tm). The experiences at Kings Island are not similar to what GL offered back in the day. Darien Lake offers the closest experience since it was a sister park since the Funtime era (and there are still hints of the Funtime era there). You say CF was stupid in buying GL but CF was stupid in buying Kings Island and the rest of the Paramount chain.  Buying these parks has put them in the biggest debt they've ever seen. And it sucks to have a monopoly in Ohio. There's lack of originality when this happens. _________________ On September 21, 2007, a historic 119-year old amusement park had been secretly murdered. Never forget it.
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ChrisS Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 143 Location: South Euclid OH	Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: · Quote I agree with six flags over expanding the park when they bought the park. Six Flags did what they wanted. They also made the city mad with the rides and building on the lake and some other stuff. Six Flags built the park way too quickly. To avoid selling it they should of started off slow. They should of built less rides in the beginning then after the first year they should of build more. I agree with cedar fair fixing up the rides cause there was a lot of problems with rides when six flags had it. Cedar Fair should of only downsized it to make it a small park. So you think id six flags would of done more than what Cedar Fair has done? Cedar Fair still has dipper skyscraper, carousel, and Raging Wolf Bobs on site and still up. _________________ 2007- Skyscraper Triangle crew 5/18/07-5/28/07 Americana/Time Warp Crew-5/28/07-8/5/07 Shipwreck Crew-8/7/07-9/16/07 2010-Wildwater Kingdom or Disney
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kingsisland Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Dayton-Cincinnati Metro	Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: · Quote Gunkey Monkey wrote: While Kings Island is my favorite Ohio park it is, however, owned by the Evil Empire (tm). The experiences at Kings Island are not similar to what GL offered back in the day. Darien Lake offers the closest experience since it was a sister park since the Funtime era (and there are still hints of the Funtime era there). You say CF was stupid in buying GL but CF was stupid in buying Kings Island and the rest of the Paramount chain.  Buying these parks has put them in the biggest debt they've ever seen. And it sucks to have a monopoly in Ohio. There's lack of originality when this happens. you would not believe the profits kings island brings in
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 2161	Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: · Quote I do not think anyone questioned the profits KI might bring in, but what does that have to do with Gunkys response? As far as profits I know there are other parks in the CF chain that make a bigger profit than KI. KI, while it was a beautiful park (CF had a lot to do with the corporate blandness imposed on it recently), and has one of the best kid areas around, it is not a park I think full of thrill rides. Sure it has The Beast, Firehawk, a few decent flats and now Diamondback, but I am bored with the park within few hours. Great Wolf while a great resort can be found within 2 hours of my driveway, I sure would not drive 4.5 hours for that. I would prefer to ride my favorite B&M at SFGaM, get in a few other great coasters and flats and take in a still wonderful park experience. I would also prefer to hit Darien Lake, take in a great hyper, some nice flats and experience what GL could have been like. I would also prefer to take in the small park charm of Waldameer and ride one of the best Wood coasters around, sorry but it beats The Beast in my book hands down (or up in my case). If you think KI is really that great fine, then its the park for you. I may miss riding Diamondback the first or second or third year, but it will be around hopefully for a while and I will get to ride it. But I sure will not make a special trip this season. CF lost out on more people than they think or are willing to say this past season, Ill bet that it continues this season. All I know is you wont see me at KI this season. Ill leave the line ride for special people while I enjoy my day at a park that cares. _________________ GL's demise was caused by one mans foolish greed. In the end the truth will come out as it always does.
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ChadV Raging Wolf Bobs User is Offline Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 438	Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: · Quote And who's to say SFWoA would have closed in '06 under its own weight?  They were supposedly operating at a gross profit when they sold to CF, SF just needed a cash infusion to keep corporate open and functional from overloading themselves with debt.
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Dwight Schrute Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 19	Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: · Quote Kings Island is my flagship park.  It has suffered through the same song and dance for years.  Though suffered really isn't a accurate portrayal- they actually do VERY well- to the tune of 3M guests per year.   What I don't like (and it's not just them) but they have record-breaking rides with no theming.  And lets face it- record breaking coasters is all CF knows how to create..... eh, CP does.... all of the other parks just get tall coasters.  Now I won't complain because my family goes to KI on average at least once a week during the summer (mostly to Nick Universe).  But it would be GREAT if they would "over-theme" something for a change.  Like Busch Gardens Williamsburg or Universal or Disney.  You may wait hours in line- but in some instance that is part of the experience.  KI (under paramount) did it right on one ride, "Tomb Raider"- and CF commenced to trash the theming to who knows what. I won't complain when I take my first ride on Diamondback this year, but it is a TALL coaster with little frills..... a typical CF coaster. I would take a ride like Dueling Dragons or Spiderman at Universal... and wait hours to ride... EVERY TIME. and by the way, whatever happened to that "Dave" guy with the demolition pictures?
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kingsisland Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Dayton-Cincinnati Metro	Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: · Quote well i do agree KI has theming issues, but i'm not sure if it is because of the Paramount transition or not, but Paramount sure did a great job at theming.  CF is however giving the rivertown area a facelift, (pictures on kicentral.com) and one of the main reasons CF purchased the chain, was because they could pay off their debt easily, as paramount just about never went in the red.  Sadly things didn't work out with GL, but i think if CF did it all again, they would have taken out all of or most of the rides 6F put in, as they cost more money to operate than they were making profits
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 2161	Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: · Quote kingsisland wrote: .....one of the main reasons CF purchased the chain, was because they could pay off their debt easily, as paramount just about never went in the red. You might want to check CF stock, it has been falling steadily and is now approaching $7! At this rate I can see the word bankruptcy in a certain companies future. _________________ GL's demise was caused by one mans foolish greed. In the end the truth will come out as it always does.
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