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Katie Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 218 Location: Canfield, OH	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: · Quote Uhhh the only coaster I haven't ridden at CP is Maverick. I have ridden everything else. Still don't find it that amazing. However, I have been on over 240 (That translates to two hundred and forty if you can't read) different roller coasters in the United States so therefore, I have been on better coasters then the ones offered at CP. The coasters are how you see them, just because you do that every time you are CP doesn't mean everyone else does. I don't like CP. What don't you get about people having their own opinions. Not everyone likes CP. Even if you paid me...I still won't like it. So just shut up already, you are giving us all here a headache with your constant whining about how amazing CP is. No one cares. They really don't. _________________ Katie http://groups.myspace.com/againstCedarFair www.cnajunkies.com/board
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Ethel Lipschittz Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 18 Mar 2008 Posts: 8	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: · Quote must be a slow weekend for someone.
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IloveGeauga Coral Cove User is Offline Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 586 Location: Toledo, Ohio	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: · Quote List of the good and bad points of CP's coasters, in no particular order: Wicked Twister:  OK, I still have yet to find out what is so fascinating about just going back and forth, back and forth.  If it's a walk on, it's worth it...ONLY if you can either get the very first seat or the very last seat.  Why???  Because the ride doesn't go up high enough on the track!  (Steel Venom, to me, was more exciting.  That sucker looked as though you were going to fly off the track going forward, and I LOVED 2 second brake....OMG...sooo scary!) Blue Streak:  This one's OK.  My last ride I had on it was probably the BEST one I've ever had on it.  It went faster than normal and no brakes!!!  (No comparison to Big Dipper.  None, whatsoever.  On Big Dipper, you actually get airtime on EVERY one of it's 11 dips.  You can't always say that about BS.) Corkscrew:  Ummm....how else should I say this....WASTE OF TIME!  (There's a reason that it's empty most of the time...hmmm.) Mantis:  Just another painful ride.  Unless, of course, you like the feeling of your knees buckling, and your ears banging back and forth against the seat.  Another waste of time! Millenium Force:  The first hill is all this ride has going for it.  After that, it's just speed.  I usually pass on the MF, unless it's a walk-on. Top Thrill Dragster:  See above opinions on MF.  Honestly, CP could have done a little more with this ride instead of having it end so quickly.  Xcelerator at Knott's Berry Farm is a good example of what they SHOULD have done with TTD. Gemini:  An OK ride if it's a walk-on AND if they don't have the trim brakes on anywhere in the ride.  I actually like admiring the beautiful flowers in front of the ride, more than I like the ride itself.  I guess Cedar Point has to compensate somewhere, huh? Iron Dragon:  Since they painted this mediocre ride, I think it goes faster!  At least I hope it does.     Again, I like admiring the beautiful flowers in front of the ride more than the ride itself. WildCat:  This is pretty fun for a portable carnival ride!   Mean Streak:  Ouch.  Anyway, um...does Cedar Point know that using trim brakes on the first hill just KILLS the whole ride?? Mine Ride:  This was my first roller coaster as a kid.  It used to be my favorite when I was little.  Kinda boring now, but good for little kids. Magnum:  My favorite coaster in the park, IF they don't have the brakes on when you're going in the pretzel out by the lake.  The camera poses for this ride are the best. Raptor:  This ones OK, if you can hold your head in an extremely  still (stiff) position throughout the entire ride.  If you don't, Heeeellllllloooooo, whiplash! 12E....aka Disaster Transport:  Waste of space and waste of a good view of the lake. Maverick:  Great ride, IF the line isn't too long.
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laneman Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 23	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: · Quote I agree with Katie and Ilovegeauga.. I prefer wood over steel coasters,and well..CP's only decent wood coaster is the Blue Streak. But I do enjoy the Phantom at Kennywood even though its steel. Thats why I enjoy Kennywood and Holiday World over CP,they have great wood coasters and they know how to take care of them. And you dont waste half of your day waiting in line for rides..
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Magnum Owns Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 28 Location: PA	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: · Quote Quote: Blue Streak- JUST LIKE BD! Maybe even better. Love this ride. The two aren't the same at all... I never really liked BD, it always beat me up really badly, but it's got a lot more historical value. I agree that Blue Streak can be a lot of fun, though. Quote: Wicked Twister:  OK, I still have yet to find out what is so fascinating about just going back and forth, back and forth.  If it's a walk on, it's worth it...ONLY if you can either get the very first seat or the very last seat.  Why???  Because the ride doesn't go up high enough on the track!  (Steel Venom, to me, was more exciting.  That sucker looked as though you were going to fly off the track going forward, and I LOVED 2 second brake....OMG...sooo scary!) The very last seat of WT is the only place I will ride! It makes the experience ten times better. I don't agree that SV is scarier than WT, though, because WT takes you up higher... but I know what you mean about the brakes. It really added something to the ride! CP's gems are Magnum, Raptor, Maverick, and MF. TTD is fun, but it's not exactly a masterpiece. There's only one roller coaster out there that is worse than Mantis... and that would be Darien Lake's Predator. Why does everyone hate when a ride has trim brakes? Honestly, when Magnum's trims are off, it always seems to deliver a more painful ride. Most of the time, my thighs are glad that they're there. Although I have to admit that Mean Streak's trims on the first hill often ruin the ride...
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swdaze Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 223	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: · Quote CFVIP, I probably did say before that I would miss CP only because I've been going there every year since the early 1980's, but when I really think about it...it isn't that fun anymore.  So I won't miss much.  I will miss 3 coasters and the rest are NO BIG DEAL.  And when I said I get stressed at CP, it is because when you want to ride something and have to decide on either wasting 1 or 2 hours of your day to wait or just skip it...for $40, that is stressful.  Mostly though it is because when my kids aren't having fun then I'm not having fun.  I never had that problem at GL, of course we had a 5 minute ride to GL versus the 2 hour drive to CP.  So...CP has lost its charm for me, no big deal.  And this didn't start because of the GL closing, my experiences the last couple years at CP have sort of sucked.
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myriam Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 33	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: · Quote Having spent lots of time at both Geauga Lake and Cedar Point, I must agree that a day at Cedar Point can be very stressful.  In addition to the long lines, trying to decide what food you want to least enjoy for the least amount of money...add two children that like to complain about the long lines, think about the cost of your admission, the ride to Cedar Point, your parking and turnpike toll and the cost of gasoline...can't think of a better way to spend your day at Cedar Point. When my children were smaller, we chose Geauga Lake because there was more for the kids to do there...not just Rainbow Island and Turtle Beach, but the ride restrictions at Geauga Lake were more relaxed than they were at Cedar Point.  I think that my children were about 12 and 9 before we attempted a trip to Cedar Point.   My children are now 20 and 17, have their own cars and go where they please.  Truth being told, I would go to Geauga Lake in a heartbeat if it were still here.  As for Cedar Point, it's too much walking for me now that I have physical limitations due to cancer and it's complications.
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IdoraparkBill Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Canfield, OH	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: · Quote Ok I agree that CP has only about 3 coasters worth a wait of an hour but no more.  I will not go to CP and be stressed by long lines, a concrete jungle making me hotter by reflecting the suns rays on me, and paying way too much for mediocre food and drink at best.  I would even spend time in a closed family amusement park walking around more than I would want to go to CP.  I have done so last weekend and many other times before.  I still walk the grounds of Idora Park which closed in 1984 and ride things in my mind.  If I listen close I can still hear the chain lift from the Wildcat and the screams as it drops down the first hill.  My family and a few friends visited Conneaut Lake Park last weekend and I would even say that we we had a great time walking around looking at what was there.  It was depressing at times, but there is still hope for that park.  My friend that lives only about 20 min from CP took a quiet moment to ponder a ride on the Blue Streak that he may or may not be able to take in the future, as he really wants to ride that coaster for the first time.  I present a photo of that moment entitled "Quiet Hope" _________________ If you don't like my opinions that is too bad because I have no time for stupid! And proud to be Katie's husband!
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Ray P Riptide Run User is Offline Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 337	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: · Quote I hate seeing photos like the one you posted Bill.  I was one of the handful of folks that made the pilgrimage each summer to Conneaut Lake.  Despite the park looking like it had seen far better days, I still had a great time there each time I'd visit.   Blue Streak was one of the most frightening roller coasters I have ever been on and those ancient Vettel trains they had running the last few seasons were simply "amazing"... moreso than anything in Sandusky.  I mean, you had a simple leather strap as a seatbelt and I had a good foot between my waist and the lapbar.  Now THAT is a great ride!     I miss the Tumble Bug, the Ultimate Trip, the Devil's Den (coaster?  I think so!), and of course the Flying Scooters.  Heck, even the Toboggan had its charm.  It's just sad that yet another family park from the past is "no longer a viable business". Thanks for sharing that photo.  "Certain people"/Cedar Point Worshippers won't care or even get why some of us enjoyed CLP.   It didn't have 17 coasters, grossly overpriced food, or even a maintenance crew that cared.  Regardless, I always left Conneaut with a smile as well, and to me that's the main reason I still enjoy this hobby.   Ray P.   _________________ "I'm a good-hearted, honest man... yet you all continue to boo me.  How DARE you treat me like that?"- Chris Jericho
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Magnum Owns Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 28 Location: PA	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: · Quote CLP... I always feel sad when I hear about that place. They just keep trying and trying, but for some reason, it never works out the way they wanted it to. What condition is it in at this point? What do you think its odds of reopening are? Maybe it's morbid of me, but I'm fascinated by SBNO amusement parks. I'd love to see Chippewa Lake as it is now. It might even be more of a thrill than a day at any operating amusement park! And for you "concrete-jungle" haters, there'd be lots of trees and "atmosphere!"
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Gunkey Monkey Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 826 Location: Cleveland, Ohio	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: · Quote Ah, the Conneaut Blue Streak - one of the most underrated coasters in existence.   I hope it gets another chance at thrilling riders one day. The Vettel trains were amazing, as Ray P. noted, and provided some awesome air time on that ride. Like GL's Big Dipper, the Blue Streak deserves to live on.
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IdoraparkBill Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Canfield, OH	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: · Quote Yep I agree wonderful airtime on that ride.  And the way it is so close to the trees.  The tunnel right out of the station also serves to disorient the riders right off the bat.  Great ride! I too wish I could take a trip to Chippewa Lake.  Here are a few photos I have in my collection.  An older lady gave these to me so I have no idea who is in these but all I know is that they are from Chippewa Lake taken in 1927.  Oh and that Ferris Wheel is still sitting in the park today. _________________ If you don't like my opinions that is too bad because I have no time for stupid! And proud to be Katie's husband!
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laneman Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 23	Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: · Quote What I wouldnt give to have just one more ride on the Idora Wildcat   The Conneaut Blue Streak is very underrated,I agree.Reminds me so much of the West View Dips,almost a mirror image of the Dips without the "horseshoe curve" Sad there isnt too many Vettel/T.M Harton coasters left,that family/company built some great ones.
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ChadV Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 162	Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Idora / Chippewa Lake · Quote There are pictures from a few years ago of Chippewa Lake and Idora here: http://sbno.illicitohio.com/ I've been wanting to make a trip to Chippewa for a few years... Wanting to make a trip to see what's left at Geauga too... I honestly think the condition of the Chippewa Big Dipper (And CLP in general) is a more fitting end for GL than what Cedar Fair has been doing... At least that way there would be the possibility down the road for someone else to do something...  (I have been hoping all weekend that PARC bid and was able to buy the land...)
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villainess Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 148 Location: parma	Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: · Quote Glfnrules wrote: News flash, you can bet your bottom dollar this SOB will never step foot into a CF park as long as I live. Of course there are those who weaken at the knees this time of year, but for me, it's just a painful reminder of where I cannot go this summer to enjoy my once favorite ride park. My views will never change. I have too many other options around me that are not CF and have a much better experience. If Cedar Fair ever died, I'd be the first to piss on it's grave. I'm with you! I couldn't have said it better myself. I won't weaken either, I haven't liked Cedar Point for a long time now. It's not fun spending all that time in line and they're too restrictive anyway. It makes a for a stressful, expensive day, that I don't get much out of. What they have isn't bad, so much as it ends up being such a waste. I'd much rather go somewhere relaxed like GL and let myself go! For those of you who DO like Cedar Point, no one is stopping you. I just can't. The thought of it makes me sick, and as time has passed since that awful day (sept 21), it only seems to have gotten worse. It makes no sense now to turn to a place that has no appeal for me, even before you pile on all that other stuff. And besides, I hope they rot in hell. _________________ R.I.P. Thriller, 1969 R.I.P. Villain, 2007 Feel The Wind
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