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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1666	Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: What would you do to improve WWK? · Quote Some felt that it was hitting below the belt to single out an individual that had nothing to do with the mess CF is in. While I feel that almost everyone in management has a part in the GL debacle we felt it would be better to remove the previous posts. Instead we invite you to tell us how you would improve WWK to keep it a viable water park for years to come. My first suggestion - Get rid of Kinzel and Co. _________________ Greed is what caused GL's demise and that just makes me sick. Lets do what we can to rat out Kinzel - hes a snake. In the end the truth will come out and we will then see whos laughing at who.
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Katie Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 276 Location: Canfield, OH	Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: · Quote Ok here goes. If I had unlimited budget... -Add more attractions to keep my guests happy and not have it a half of a day park. -Get rid of all upper level management and add some new faces. -Add some flats to get some variety into the mix. -Get rid of the parking fee. -Add BETTER FOOD and charge less for it. -Add more season pass perks for WWK and maybe to another CF park of the passholders choosing. -Add more land to accommodate expansion. -Add a PR department that actually does their jobs by answering guests comments, concerns and dislikes of my park. _________________ Katie http://groups.myspace.com/againstCedarFair www.cnajunkies.com/board
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BlueStreak81 Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 84	Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: · Quote I would suggest building an indoor water park resort so that they would generate revenues year round.  If they want WWK to maintain the largest waterpark in the state status, they need to expand.  Perhaps they could build a GL museum to remind people where the roots of WWK originally came from.  I know that Dover Lake Water Park added a few smaller flat rides before it closed to the competitors.
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ffejie Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 261	Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: · Quote The first thing i would do is to go get my way wayback machine and have simon send me back 15 months. Than stop,  find a way for funtimes to bye the park back, let katie run the place, as for me just let me have the first ride on the dipper in 2008
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Katie Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 276 Location: Canfield, OH	Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: · Quote HAHAHA! Dude, GL would make bank if I was in charge. WOOT! _________________ Katie http://groups.myspace.com/againstCedarFair www.cnajunkies.com/board
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TBone8n69 Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 224 Location: Akron,oh	Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: · Quote I would start right away on rebuilding Geauga Lakes ride side to look just like the 1988 GL Map as this era had alot of rides with Rainbow Island! Then, put are Wave back in where it belongs. After that, I would sell the otherside back to Seaworld and re-live the Funtimes era, which I thought was the best era to be honest! Oh don't forget "The Rotor" so fred can come back! Man I miss are Park! _________________ (ACFG)Anti-Cedar Fair Group
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chadta Splash Landing User is Offline Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 148 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada	Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: · Quote first move, cut prices to like 15 bucks per day, free parking i havent been since the rides side closed but thats about all id be willing to pay for it from years past. second move, have a poll of park guests to see what water type attraction they would most like to see in the future, then mkae it happen. third move, big dome over whole park so it can operate year round, ohio aint much farther south then i am and i dont understand how a water park can survive on 4 months of operations. _________________
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Dominator56 Villain User is Offline Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 1259 Location: Akron, Ohio	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: · Quote Well buy up all the land (from ride side) and start all over....  you can only imagine... I'd say 15 bucks admission free parking to start. Then once I get some attractions (reasonable amount with coasters) up to 23 dollars to get in (for amuesment and waterpark together) and free parking. I'd have the park making what it should have. _________________ Geauga Lake I will miss you!
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Flyingscooter Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Cleveland	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: · Quote Cut food prices for starters. From everyone I've heard, they are grossly overpriced. I'd move the Big Dipper over there and get it running (could be their one saving grace.) I'd put in a Grizzly Run type ride. _________________ >>>>>Feuer FREI<<<<<< BANG BANG!
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ChadV Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 218	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: · Quote I would, at the very bare minimum, refurbish the Carousel and move it over to the WWK side of the lake, keeping it at GL.  If Woosnam/Mystery Might-exist Person would not sell the Dipper back to the park (though even moving it to the other side of the lake makes my teeth itch.) then get just a few small other flats, especially some kids' flats.  Nothing too extravagant, just enough to re-populate the kid's area. Drop the parking fee (does that even pay for attendants at the current attendance levels?) and the one-day entrance. I'm going into this presuming that at this point any attendance GL will have over last year's WWK attendance will have to be built from scratch, so any full-rebuilding of the park would be a multi-decade job.  But bring back just enough flats to give people something to do when they want to get out of the water a while...  Keep them in the park to buy the reasonably-priced food, souvenirs, etc.
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Radius Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 31	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: · Quote 1: Determine if the park will be around for the forseeable future. 2: If not, close it now and be done with it. 3: Otherwise, build the customer base by increasing value.  It's difficut for people to think they are not getting ripped off by having 'just' a waterpark. You don't need to add a ride each offseason but consider reducing the cost of parking, as a starter.  Take a good long look at concessions and figure out what you could change to increase how the customer perceives your items.  IMPROVE the quality of the food you offer for corporate picnics,  words can't describe the lack of quality. If person in charge of Food and Beverage is not doing it, get someone in the position who can. 4: Work with the local community to improve image.  They are your bread and butter now especially since the park is NO LONGER a semi-destination park. Weather they like it or not, this site IS part of the local community. Not saying they need to get on thier knees to service coasterdad, BUT, show some improvement and commitment and I bet (SOME)people here will be telling their friends/family/co-workers to check out the park, like we used to. 5: Pray the economy and weather stay on your side as without good fortune in both you're sunk before you start. GL will never have a traditional park ride in it's gates again.  So, don't bother with that fantasy.    Their one wild card may be the development of the other side of the lake.  If you get people shopping over there that may peek the interest of perspective customers to give the park another shot.  Of course, that's assuming the park will be there in 5-8 years when something opens on that side. -Pat, who would post more if this: "QMCFMD - QMcFMDWould you like to try to log in again?" didn't happen 5 times each time I try and log-in.
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coasterdad Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 1666	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: · Quote How a piece of property the size of WWK can be open only two months out of the year and be profitable is beyond me. I doubt it will even be open within the next two years. But if it is and they don't add anything they MUST drop the price. A friend from Florida visited the park this past summer and laughed. With Florida being the water park capitol it's a wonder why he had this reaction. WWK in its present configuration is overpriced. There are not enough attractions at WWK currently to keep anyone reasonably occupied for more than half a day. WWK needs more family or multiple raft rides like a water coaster or a family raft ride. A unique water attraction like a surf machine would help. Dry rides would really help, I don't always want to be in the water and it's great to be able to do other things. If company picnics are on the radar than this is a must. There is still enough of the ride side left to make install some dry ride attractions. As a matter of fact up until the 60's what's left of the park now is all there was. I think it would be in WWK's best interest to the use current Dipper area again for flats. Keep Dipper, the picnic shelters, and use the old ballroom or theater to create a GL museum. This could go a long way to erase the huge amount of negatively that CF has thus far created. _________________ Greed is what caused GL's demise and that just makes me sick. Lets do what we can to rat out Kinzel - hes a snake. In the end the truth will come out and we will then see whos laughing at who.
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Flyingscooter Double Loop User is Offline Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 289 Location: Cleveland	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: · Quote "How a piece of property the size of WWK can be open only two months out of the year and be profitable is beyond me. I doubt it will even be open within the next two years. " CD True enough. I wonder what the cost would be to dome it and put in a resort hotel. _________________ >>>>>Feuer FREI<<<<<< BANG BANG!
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Gunkey Monkey Site Admin User is Offline Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 868 Location: Cleveland, Ohio	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: · Quote I'm not much of a water park person but when we had a complete park I would at least visit WWK two maybe three times a summer.  It's sad that they had a good start and have since dropped the ball on making WWK more than it really could be. I would add (not all at once): WhiteWaterWest Boomerango WhitewaterWest Family Raft Slide WhiteWaterWest Mat Racer WhiteWaterWest Flow Rider ProSlide Speed Slide Tower ProSlide Bowl Slide A Water Coaster (SFKK Deluge comes to mind) Another body and/or innertube slide tower In many cases I would actually enhance the experience by spending a little extra dough to actually add theming to some slides. Don't just plop the slides onto the property. Rebuild Turtle Beach - larger and with more kid's activities than the old one. A larger bathhouse with double the changing rooms. I always thought that was one of the things that WWK should have done from the start. With all the land still undeveloped on the other side of Tidal Wave Bay and now the large empty place that once was home to Happy Harbor, all the above can be possible. I would also lower the price for parking. _________________ On September 21, 2007, a historic 119-year old amusement park had been secretly murdered. Never forget it.
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raising4daughters Beaver Land Mine Ride User is Offline Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 19 Location: Cleveland, OH	Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Easy Fixes to WWK · Quote I'd build up a family-oriented amusement park across the lake from WWK.  No huge thrill rides.  I'd start with an old classic woodie, then maybe a well-used 70s vintage arrow looper, and a classic log flume.  These would be my anchors. I'd install a monorail that went around the park and gave visitors a few of the whole park.  I'd add a mix of classic and modern flat rides.  I'd start with a fiberglass blue side, a set of flyers, a teacup ride, a tumble bug, a caterpillar, an old rocket plane, and a spinning ferris wheel all along the lake.  Maybe a traditional, Amerciana like ferris wheel too.  A lakeside restaurant called the Wharf might work. If there was any money left, I'd add one of the following:  a B&M floorless, a Vekoma suspended coaster, or a spinning mouse.  Most likely a spinning mouse.
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