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Repa Site Admin User is Offline


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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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So, wwe, how do you get defrag to run in safe mode on Vista? Linda couldn't get it to work there. Are you using the Administrator account?
Sam, windows is stupid and inefficient, and doesn't know when to do a defrag. When you are first setting up a machine, there are appropriate times to do several defrags so that you don't get your hard drive with stuff being loaded all over the drive. You want everything compacted into the same space on the hard drive, not divided up all over the place like I've seen a lot of hard drives. _________________ Repa
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| there are appropriate times to do several defrags so that you don't get your hard drive with stuff being loaded all over the drive. |
Yes I know... and I always check to see if I need to... as I said... I don't save my things on the computer's hard drive... that helps me in more than one way _________________
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I remember on windowsxp that you could check to see if it needed to be defragged but it does not give that option on Vista or if it does, I have nio idea where it's at.
It powered off during the defrag and it does not show you a thing while it's defragging. I don't like that and I don't care for vista at all.
Yep repa, you did say you don't like vista...lol
is anyone else having trouble sending a pm? I have tried and tried and it won't work??? _________________
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Repa wrote: |
| there are appropriate times to do several defrags so that you don't get your hard drive with stuff being loaded all over the drive. |
Yes I know... and I always check to see if I need to... as I said... I don't save my things on the computer's hard drive... that helps me in more than one way |
You didn't quote the whole quote - it's "When you are first setting up a machine, there are appropriate times to do several defrags...." The key phrase is "when you are first setting up a machine...." You do defrags during the process of setting up, tuning, and adding applications that you don't do at any other time. This is especially true if you are installing or reinstalling Windows yourself. In Linda's case, we are removing a lot of bloatware and spyware as well as tuning, so we do defrags whether Windows thinks it needs it or not to get everything as compacted into the same space as we can. Periodic defrags help speed up the computer as well, sometimes even when Windows says you don't need to. I've seen my drive pretty fragmented when Windows thought it was just fine. _________________ Repa
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Linda, here are your next set of instructions. You are going to disable some Windows Vista Features that aren’t needed. To fully understand how to access the Windows Features, turn them on or off, and know what each feature is for, you will need to read the Windows Vista Feature Guide that can be found here:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial134.html
This guide tells you how to access the Windows Features, turn them on or off, and what each feature is for. Most of the features do not need to be enabled (checked) and most are disabled (unchecked) by default. The features that are enabled by default are few, and you may want to disable some of them if you aren’t going to use them. Read the entire guide carefully before disabling any features that are turned on by default. Read about what the feature you want to turn off does before disabling it. The features I recommend you consider turning off are as follows:
1. Under Print Services - consider disabling (unchecking) Internet Printing.
2. Remote Differential Services - disable unless you are sending files between computers on a network.
3. Tablet PC Optional Components – consider disabling if you don’t use the Snipping tool.
4. Windows DFS Replication Service
5. Windows Meeting Space
Note: disable the above in Windows Features one at a time. After disabling one, reboot and play around some with your computer to make sure that disabling the feature did not affect anything that you want to do. If you find that the result of disabling a feature is not what you want, you can turn it back on. . Continue doing this until you have gone through all the features mentioned in 1 – 5 above. Let me know when you are done, have checked your computer and are satisfied with how it is running so far. We have a few more things to do after this. _________________ Repa
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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thank you repa
I have lots of errands to run today and i'm going up to move Ash home tomorrow so it may be Sunday or even Monday before I get computer time again. I want to be rested a tad so i can read the link you provided before beginning. I don't really see anything that you suggest disabling that i want to keep. I did want to ask what the snipit is? I have never used it but don't know if i would since i don't know what it is. It may be in the link and I will check the link as soon as i can. I have to get going.
I did call Toshiba yesterday and asked several questions in regards to the battery, the defragger, etc'
Microsoft did not build the visual part of watching your machine defrag as it is in windowsxp.
they told me i should use the battery some everyday but NOT to let it get totally depleted and then I can just leave it in as well as keeping my laptop plugged into the electrical outlet. they said doing it this way actually prolongs the life of the battery longer than just taking it out.
I meant to ask about defragging in safe mode. I am writing some questions down so i can go through them and will ask this when I call back.
I don't know why but the pc is slow running again. I have only gone to the main sites I always use. I had an error come up this morning but the first one would not allow me to paste it in paint so when the second window came up I took a screenshot again and pasted it.. here is what it said. I had to close the browser as it froze. It did work after that for that link.
It did boot faster without the batter being in it and having it plugged it. i was curious if it would. It was really fast booting without the battery.
it's not real slow booting but i have encountered it being slow like posting here, looking on Etsy which is like ebay, we sell our handmade items there, and then getting this error message below:
the board was very slow today and even trying to view my image. Not sure if the slowness I've encountered is due to the servers or not.
repa,
should I scan with all my programs again before proceeding in the intstuctions above?? Just to make sure nothing is there? _________________
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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thank you repa
I did want to ask what the snipit is? I have never used it but don't know if i would since i don't know what it is.
The Snipping Tool is a program that is part of the Vista Tablet PC Optional Components feature. Snipping Tool allows you to take selections of your windows or desktop and save them as snips, or screen shots, on your computer. Past versions of Windows enabled you to take screen shots by pressing the the PrintScreen button to take a picture of your entire screen or Alt-Printscreen to take a screen shot of just the active window. This screen shot would be placed in your clipboard that you can then paste in another image program of your choice.
You can read about the snipping tool here:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial135.html
and here:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/1337cdba-52a2-4704-ad4d-2d7bace605b41033.mspx
I meant to ask about defragging in safe mode. I am writing some questions down so i can go through them and will ask this when I call back.
I suspect that defrag might work in Safe Mode in the Administrator account, but don't know that for sure. You'll just have to try it and see. You can do it now, or wait until the end of the instructions where I'll tell you to do it again.
I don't know why but the pc is slow running again. I have only gone to the main sites I always use. I had an error come up this morning but the first one would not allow me to paste it in paint so when the second window came up I took a screenshot again and pasted it.. here is what it said. I had to close the browser as it froze. It did work after that for that link.
Looks like you are going to a webpage that has Flash on it. Have you been to the same page before without this problem? You can remove your current version of Flash from your Uninstall Programs, and download and install the latest version from Adobe from here:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&ogn=EN_US-gntray _dl_getflashplayer
Caution: be sure that, on the download page under "Also Install" that you uncheck the box beside "Free Google Toolbar (optional)."
It did boot faster without the batter being in it and having it plugged it. i was curious if it would. It was really fast booting without the battery.
I don't understand that at all.....
it's not real slow booting but i have encountered it being slow like posting here, looking on Etsy which is like ebay, we sell our handmade items there
the board was very slow today and even trying to view my image. Not sure if the slowness I've encountered is due to the servers or not.
Linda, if your computer continues to be slow over several days, then have some concern. It could be the servers where you are going, or it could be your own ISP. I checked Itsy, and it is a safe site with no problems being reported by reviewers. There are a lot of problems being reported with Vista, so that could be part of the problem as well.
should I scan with all my programs again before proceeding in the intstuctions above?? Just to make sure nothing is there?
You can if it will make you feel better, but I wouldn't worry for now unless you continue having problems. Go ahead with the instructions once you understand about the Snipping Tool and have decided if you want it available or not.
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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repa
I have read the info and deleted the first two items and got online last week a bit and everything seemed to work good. I have not had anhy time at all to delete the rest due to preparing for vacation and planting out flowers and such. Just a lot to do and many appts. I will finish it when I get home. I won't be taking it with me. I thank you for all your help and I will finish it up when i get back. It gives you a break from me..lol
You are the best. God bless you and take care. I will check in when i get back home.
Bye everyone.  _________________
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Just let me know when you are ready for more instructions, Linda. There are still a few things left to do to get your computer tuned. _________________ Repa
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi repa
I am trying to get back to a normal routine. I did not take my pc on vacation. I am picking up with the instructions where I left off.
I have now deleted the following:
1. Under Print Services - consider disabling (unchecking) Internet Printing.
2. Remote Differential Services - disable unless you are sending files between computers on a network.
3. Tablet PC Optional Components – consider disabling if you don’t use the Snipping tool.
...........I still need to use the pc a little for #3 and then will continue on deleting the last two items.
I have a big concern about something. I always have my windows updates to download but allowing me to choose what I want to install. It use to show an icon in my task bar or bottom tray. I don't get it anymore. Now I have a yellon icon with an exclamation point showing on this icon next to the lock icon to the left when you click on start. Hope that made sense. It won't let you view it, it just says you have downloads ready to install. How do I get it to give me the options again of choosing what I want to install, it automatically downloads but I want to see what it downloaded. I checked my settings and they are the same and never changed but it's not showing me.
Also, I only have until the 25th to install the AVG 8.0. I uninstalled AVG 7.5 when I clicked on it in my programs and it said it uninstalled BUT, when I tried to install AVG 8.0, it said I already had an antivirus on my pc and to remove it first and then install 8.0 AND it also said there was a windows download that I needed to install in order for AVG 8.0 to work properly. It said I needed to make sure this download was installed first or my pc and AVG would not work properly. I did not take the download though. I could kick myself for not writing down what it was. SORRY
I jusgt reinstalled AVG 7.5 as I wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem and find out what I should do. I am going to finish turning off those last 2 items and checking the functionality of my pc first. I just have a lot going on here with the flooding and life is not normal right now and don't want to forget to install AVG 8.0 as we don't get anymore updates for 7.5 after June 25th.
I will check back later this evening repa. Hope you and Granny are doing fine. I pray everyone else here is also. I'm praying for everyone daily.  _________________
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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I have a big concern about something. I always have my windows updates to download but allowing me to choose what I want to install. It use to show an icon in my task bar or bottom tray. I don't get it anymore. Now I have a yellon icon with an exclamation point showing on this icon next to the lock icon to the left when you click on start. Hope that made sense. It won't let you view it, it just says you have downloads ready to install. How do I get it to give me the options again of choosing what I want to install, it automatically downloads but I want to see what it downloaded. I checked my settings and they are the same and never changed but it's not showing me.
What's the last thing you did before this happened? How long have you noticed this? I do not let any site, including Windows Update download anything on my computer without my knowledge. I do all my updates manually. Did you check to see if the setting for "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them" is checked? Check your setting by right-clicking on My Computer, select Properties from the pop-up menu that appears, then select the Automatic Updates tab and check to make sure the correct option is checked.
Also, I only have until the 25th to install the AVG 8.0. I uninstalled AVG 7.5 when I clicked on it in my programs and it said it uninstalled BUT, when I tried to install AVG 8.0, it said I already had an antivirus on my pc and to remove it first and then install 8.0 AND it also said there was a windows download that I needed to install in order for AVG 8.0 to work properly. It said I needed to make sure this download was installed first or my pc and AVG would not work properly. I did not take the download though. I could kick myself for not writing down what it was. SORRY
I jusgt reinstalled AVG 7.5 as I wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem and find out what I should do. I am going to finish turning off those last 2 items and checking the functionality of my pc first. I just have a lot going on here with the flooding and life is not normal right now and don't want to forget to install AVG 8.0 as we don't get anymore updates for 7.5 after June 25th.
Install all new Windows Updates and then uninstall AVG Free 7.5. After uninstalling AVG 7.5, delete the folder AVG Free in C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Free (or it might be AVG7 instead of AVG Free, depending on which version it was when you first installed it) if it is still there, and then try to install AVG Free 8.0. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have a big concern about something. I always have my windows updates to download but allowing me to choose what I want to install. It use to show an icon in my task bar or bottom tray. I don't get it anymore. Now I have a yellon icon with an exclamation point showing on this icon next to the lock icon to the left when you click on start. Hope that made sense. It won't let you view it, it just says you have downloads ready to install. How do I get it to give me the options again of choosing what I want to install, it automatically downloads but I want to see what it downloaded. I checked my settings and they are the same and never changed but it's not showing me.
What's the last thing you did before this happened? How long have you noticed this? I do not let any site, including Windows Update download anything on my computer without my knowledge. I do all my updates manually. Did you check to see if the setting for "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them" is checked? Check your setting by right-clicking on My Computer, select Properties from the pop-up menu that appears, then select the Automatic Updates tab and check to make sure the correct option is checked.
I did not take my pc with me and no one could use it, it was locked. It started it once I got home. Every time I went to log off, once I went to shut down it auto installed them and i couldn't see them. I have NEVER allowed any program, evem WIndows to install on it's own. I have always had the settings as download but allow me to choose the installs. here is a screenshot of my settings as they are and have always been:
Here is a screenshot of what it downloaded on it's own:
I checked before writing this and nothing is available that is important or recommended. I'm sorry it's taken me a while but with the flooding here in Cedar Rapids, things are all out of sorts and I had to take Ash to the ER on Thursday evening as she was having pains but she had pulled a muscle, the baby is fine and she's ok.
I don't understand why it's doing this. I have had very little time on it and NO ONE could use it while I was away. It's seems to be running well as it was before I left. I have 2 more items to delete from the previous instructions, the last 2 on the list. I just have not had much pc time with everything going on and you had told me to use it after each item to make sure it is working correctly before deleting the next one. that's what I've done.
Also, I only have until the 25th to install the AVG 8.0. I uninstalled AVG 7.5 when I clicked on it in my programs and it said it uninstalled BUT, when I tried to install AVG 8.0, it said I already had an antivirus on my pc and to remove it first and then install 8.0 AND it also said there was a windows download that I needed to install in order for AVG 8.0 to work properly. It said I needed to make sure this download was installed first or my pc and AVG would not work properly. I did not take the download though. I could kick myself for not writing down what it was. SORRY
I jusgt reinstalled AVG 7.5 as I wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem and find out what I should do. I am going to finish turning off those last 2 items and checking the functionality of my pc first. I just have a lot going on here with the flooding and life is not normal right now and don't want to forget to install AVG 8.0 as we don't get anymore updates for 7.5 after June 25th.
Install all new Windows Updates and then uninstall AVG Free 7.5. After uninstalling AVG 7.5, delete the folder AVG Free in C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Free (or it might be AVG7 instead of AVG Free, depending on which version it was when you first installed it) if it is still there, and then try to install AVG Free 8.0. |
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I just checked and it said there were no updates. I will uninstall AVG 7.5 and try to reinstall AVG 8.0. I also have to uninstall AVG anti spyware, I guess it's included in the 8.0 version. It tells you this in the install of 8.0 Thanks repa _________________
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hi repa
I am so frustrated with this. I have tried and tried. I unistalled AVG 7.5 and then I deleted it in Program files. I rebooted, tried to install AVG 8.0 and it is still saying I have an antivirus on my pc.
Here is a screenshot of what it's saying:
I exited set up, checked the program files again and nothing was left but the Grisoft folder, nothing in it but I deleted it too and rebooted and tried the install again, same message came up, I just click to proceed to see what would happen and this is the message i got telling me Windows vista is not up to date and i needed to install this update, I took a screenshot for you:
I have uninstalled and reinstalled AVG so many times so i could post. My desktop is in bad shape and I HAVE to do the destructive recovery on it when i finish this laptop, hardly anything works and its almost at a standstill and i don't know will's password and he's helping a flood victim move so i have no other pc to use. I do have AVG 7.5 on here though. I would never go online without my antivirus. I will check back later tonight. I need to go buy groceries. Sorry for all my troubles. I have no idea what is going on since I was going step by step. I will jsut keep plugging away at it. can't afford to be anymore stressed.
Thanks repa.  _________________
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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If you are set on using AVG, then go here and download the Microsoft patch (make sure you choose the correct download for the machine you have, either 32bit or 64bit machine):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=101ba074-12c1-46b3-8af6-159afee195b9&displa ylang=en
It sounds like you are trying to install the full version of AVG 8.0 and not the free version, which is just the anti-virus. That may be what is giving you the conflict, but I don't know. The free version you should be installing is found here:
http://www.grisoft.cz/filedir/inst/avg_free_stf_en_8_100a1323.exe
If you want a better, more thorough, and free anti-virus with more realtime protection, I suggest you consider Avast! You can read about it here:
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-free-home-antivirus-antispyware.html
and you will find the download for Avast! here:
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html#DownloadAvastHomeEdition
Remember that you will have to register Avast! to keep it updating past the 30 or 60 day limit. Do that immediately after installing it, that is, if you do decide to install it. You will get an email with a key that you will need to enter. I think you are given the option for doing this during the install. If not, you can easily do it after the install. _________________ Repa
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Repa,
I guess I downloaded the full version as I looked at what you posted and then looked at what I downloaded and saved and it said all in it so I guess I downloaded the wrong one. I'm sorry.
I never like Norton or McAfee but I did like AVG as it was simple. I only learned about AVG from you when I first joined. If Avast is better and easy to use, that's fine with me. What is your recommendation?
I'm reading about Avast but not sure I understand what it means for any programs when it says real time protection? _________________
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