A ballot will be sent only to those citizens who have completed the requirements of voter registration.
Currently registered voters:
Austi Scot
Christopher Wright
__________________________ _________________ Austi Scot MP
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I did register to vote on the Relevant thread in the Prime Minister’s Office. Therefore I ask that I be placed on the list above, thanks!
In addition, after a careful review of the Constitution and Current Statutory Laws of the Kingdom, I find that the Election Commission or those behind the Election are acting Illegally, in removing citizens who have the Constitutional Right to Vote from the Registration List. There is NO Law in the Kingdom which says on has to register to Vote, There is NO Law saying if you don’t register you cannot vote and there is NO Law Granting the King, Prime Minister or Citizens the right to deny a person a vote for not registering.
Therefore, All citizens who applied for citizenship and Still Hold Citizenship Should be sent a Ballot Regardless if they registered or Not and this Act by the Prime Minister of removing citizens from the Ballot List is an Illegal act and unconstitutional and thus, I move that the Election Commission place all citizens who “have not been declared incapacitated or having been convicted of crime” to be placed back on this List or Legal Action Shall be sought to defend this rights of citizens, who’s right to vote is threatened in this very act.
I remain at your service,
Michael Dervin B.C.L _________________ Mr. Dervin, Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Devonia
Before you continue to go off I will tell you and everyone who cares to read and think about the situation. I already spoke with the King concerning this matter, well before you came back to Devonia this time.
The simple fact is that the email address of a voter must be available in order to send that person a ballot. You indeed did place your name in the correct thread in my office. However, you have not supplied an email address, thus you have not completed the voter registration for yourself.
If you will read that thread again you can clearly see that an email address must be sent to austi_scot@hotmail.com If there are any citizens who wish to notify me of his or her email address they too will receive a ballot.
Registration for elections is a very common thing done in most countries, both macronational and micronational countries. You must know that the Constitution is not being violated here at all, this is simply a method put in place so that people who are citizens will be sent a ballot, simply a procedure being used so that a ballot can be sent to the correct people and spam is not sent.
If you wish to vote, simply supply an email address where a ballot can be sent to you. Free accounts are available on hotmail, gmail, yahoo, and probably other places. You can use it for the election and then abandon it if you wish, creating a new email account each election if you wish.
Now if you wish to take legal action you are welcome to begin that process. _________________ Austi Scot MP
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Firstly, Most Nations have a Little piece of legislation called “Election Law”. This Law is an act passed by the Legislator of that Country and It legally sets out the Official Procedure to which All Elections are to be carried out, e.g. Voters Registration, Ballots, Who is In charge & What is to take place during an Election. The Fact is Devonia DOES NOT HAVE an Election Law or Any Law which States that a Citizen Has to register to Vote or supply you with any details in order to Vote. As there is No Law which states this and the Constitution quite Clearly Says “All Citizens”, you therefore Have NO Legal Right to Say who will be sent a Ballot and who will not be sent a Ballot. This Is the Law of the Kingdom and all must obey it, talking to the King or by Posting an Post here on the Forum saying that this is the way you want it, doesn’t change the Fact that, There is No Voter’s Registration in The Kingdom and to enforce one, without any Laws stating so, Is Illegal and Unconstitutional and that is what you are doing here.
Secondly, All Citizens of the Kingdom gave their E-mail Address in their Application and If you require them to send All Citizens a Ballot as the constitution clearly states, then I advise you to contact the King who would surely have a List of Citizen’s E-mail addresses.
Lastly, I Would like to Ask You and the King for the Last time to stop this Illegal Activity within 24 hours or I will submit to the Courts a Petition to have this Illegal Procedure Thrown Out, this would obviously mean that the Whole Election will be put on hold till the Outcome of the case, but it will be worth it in protecting the constitutional rights of each and every citizen. On the Note of Courts, You seem to forget Mr. Scot, that I am a Professional Barrister (Lawyer), I studied law in University, sat my bar Exam and have been practising Law for quite some time, in Real Life situations. So, Please save me the Expense of trying to correct me on any legal issues, constitution issues regarding any nation. I do believe I have far more knowledge in this field than you and therefore, Know what I am talking about when it comes to this issue. Unless, you of course have some sort of Legal Qualification or you can show me in how I am wrong on this by quoting any Law in the Kingdom which supports your actions.
I await your response and hope you will scrap this Procedure,
Michael Dervin B.C.L _________________ Mr. Dervin, Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Devonia
The Fact is Devonia DOES NOT HAVE an Election Law or Any Law which States that a Citizen Has to register to Vote or supply you with any details in order to Vote. As there is No Law which states this and the Constitution quite Clearly Says “All Citizens”, you therefore Have NO Legal Right to Say who will be sent a Ballot and who will not be sent a Ballot.
Your email address, as I clearly stated before, has not been provided to me. Should you wish to do so simply create one and send an email to me at austi_scot@hotmail.com and a ballot will be sent to you. Since I have no place to send you a ballot I am clearly asking you to provide such an email. You can rant and rave all you want, but no ballot can be sent to someone whom I have no way of sending a ballot.
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This Is the Law of the Kingdom and all must obey it, talking to the King or by Posting an Post here on the Forum saying that this is the way you want it, doesn’t change the Fact that, There is No Voter’s Registration in The Kingdom and to enforce one, without any Laws stating so, Is Illegal and Unconstitutional and that is what you are doing here.
It clearly is a matter of regulations set down only for the purpose of having a place to send a ballot to any given person who is a citizen. I have no email address for you thus you can remedy the situation simply by creating an email address you want used and sending it to me at austi_scot@hotmail.com
There is a voters registration and you agreed to such when you posted your name in the proper thread and registered. You simply did not complete the whole registration process. Please send an email address where a ballot can be sent to you.
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Secondly, All Citizens of the Kingdom gave their E-mail Address in their Application and If you require them to send All Citizens a Ballot as the constitution clearly states, then I advise you to contact the King who would surely have a List of Citizen’s E-mail addresses.
Mr. Dervin, I do not know why it is difficult for you to understand. You certainly would not make a good Prime Minister and I now seriously doubt your ability to be a member of Parliament. Be that as it may it is highly likely that you will be elected to Parliament even if you refuse to complete your voter registration since there are three seats and you are one of just three candidates.
You are welcome to submit a petition to the courts, I seriously doubt that the voters registration regulation will be thrown out or that the election will be declared null and void. The election will not be put on hold unless a court order so declares and I too doubt that will happen.
The voters registration procedure will not be scraped regards of your real life work. Best of luck. _________________ Austi Scot MP
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Gentlemen Get along and be civil. _________________ His Royal Majesty King Rafael II of the House of Aluveaux. Consul of Etampes, Prince of Arretium, Prince of Apulia, The Duke of Calabria, The Duke of Devon, The Duke of Lavinium, and The Duke of York.
I am doing my best to be civil, however Mr. Dervin appears to not understand that I can’t send a ballot to everyone who has ever registered on the boards as they may not be a citizen and that would be considered spam.
He also doesn’t seem to understand that I have no email addresses and that I once asked you for email addresses of citizens, which you either didn’t have or chose to not give to me – Let me say I understand your not giving to me as people may not have given you permission to give out their email address.
He also doesn’t seem to understand that I can’t send him a ballot unless he provides an email address.
Your Majesty, it is impossible for Mr. Dervin to be civil and I shall not be bullied by any facts of his real life situation. Besides it might be fun having him in Parliament. _________________ Austi Scot MP
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Well does anybody know how to like use a crack for a free download _________________ His Royal Majesty King Rafael II of the House of Aluveaux. Consul of Etampes, Prince of Arretium, Prince of Apulia, The Duke of Calabria, The Duke of Devon, The Duke of Lavinium, and The Duke of York.
Your email address, as I clearly stated before, has not been provided to me. Should you wish to do so simply create one and send an email to me at austi_scot@hotmail.com and a ballot will be sent to you. Since I have no place to send you a ballot I am clearly asking you to provide such an email. You can rant and rave all you want, but no ballot can be sent to someone whom I have no way of sending a ballot.
Then ask for a Citizenship List with all the E-mail Addresses from the King, which you are suppose to obtain in the first place. As you are to make every effort to get citizen's contact details, which you didn't.
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You certainly would not make a good Prime Minister and I now seriously doubt your ability to be a member of Parliament. Be that as it may it is highly likely that you will be elected to Parliament even if you refuse to complete your voter registration since there are three seats and you are one of just three candidates.
Well, I don't think the good citizens of this nation would want a PM who disregards the Constitution and Laws of this Kingdom & makes up his own to suit his own purpose. Which you have clearly done in this Election, the facts are there!
Anyway, In light of the King's recent Decree, I hereby withdraw my Legal Action and Petition to the Courts. I wish you all the best in the election. _________________ Mr. Dervin, Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Devonia
Then ask for a Citizenship List with all the E-mail Addresses from the King, which you are suppose to obtain in the first place. As you are to make every effort to get citizen's contact details, which you didn't.
You idiot, I already told you that I did that – I made every effort available.
The King gave you, not a victory, but a different place to send your email address. Since the King agreed with me that you should send an email address I wonder if you will now be reasonable.
Best wishes to you and the King in your endeavors. _________________ Austi Scot MP
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You idiot, I already told you that I did that – I made every effort available.
No need to call names here, I am sure you did make every effort, but the Law clearly states that you cannot deny someone the right to vote for "not having their E-mail Address".
This is what you were doing, which is not allowed under any law that you may think of.
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The King gave you, not a victory, but a different place to send your email address. Since the King agreed with me that you should send an email address I wonder if you will now be reasonable.
The King clearly states, that if you did not register you can still vote, you were saying that if you don't register you can't vote. There is a difference here, You denied citizens the right to vote in your system, the King is saying, if you don't register you can still vote, but I won't e-mail you the results you have to find them out yourself (e.g. by going to the forum). Thisis a BIG difference and this method is constitutional. So yes, I would say it is a victory! _________________ Mr. Dervin, Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Devonia
Dervin shut up. This is no Victory for you. You have been thinking of yourself before the Kingdom, that is very selfish, and Has caused us to Lose a talented Prime Minister. _________________ His Royal Majesty King Rafael II of the House of Aluveaux. Consul of Etampes, Prince of Arretium, Prince of Apulia, The Duke of Calabria, The Duke of Devon, The Duke of Lavinium, and The Duke of York.
… the Law clearly states that you cannot deny someone the right to vote for "not having their E-mail Address".
Really Mr. Dervin, what law is that, can you quote this law to which you refer? Can you give a link to where this law you state as being in existence is actually located. You know there is no such law. You are simply an idiot and there is a need to call you that because everyone who reads your post is yearning to tell you the same thing. _________________ Austi Scot MP
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The Constitution says in order to vote you must have a residence on Devonia, giving email addresses does not disable one from voting _________________ His Royal Majesty King Rafael II of the House of Aluveaux. Consul of Etampes, Prince of Arretium, Prince of Apulia, The Duke of Calabria, The Duke of Devon, The Duke of Lavinium, and The Duke of York.
Its called the constitution, it says "All citizens have the Right to who have not been declared incapacitated or having been convicted of crime”. Well, is not submitting a E-mail incapacitating or being convicted of crime”. I guess not! You act like you understand the Constitution of Devonia and Her Laws, but you do not. My real life job has alot to do here and it does not differ. Perhaps, you would like it if I called you an idiot and said you job didn't matter when it came to telephone systems or such related articles, If i say I know more about the stuff you trained to do. Therefore, the fact is you are the idiot and are nothing more.
I know what I am talking about, you sadly, do not, so go back to watching Judge Judy until you can actually put together some form of Interpretation of the Law that can rival my understanding. _________________ Mr. Dervin, Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Devonia
Its called the constitution, it says "All citizens have the Right to who have not been declared incapacitated or having been convicted of crime”. Well, is not submitting a E-mail incapacitating or being convicted of crime”. I guess not! You act like you understand the Constitution of Devonia and Her Laws, but you do not.
I do understand the Constitution and the laws, I also understand regulations put in place to support the Constitution and the laws.
Dervin, I know full well the promulgation of regulations in support of the Constitution and in support of laws. Having a regulation for voter registration in no way violates the Constitution and I think you know that.
It’s too bad that you want to act this way and it’s too bad that you wish to hurt Devonia instead of help Devonia.
As for the rest of what you said, it just shows you are an idiot. You think you are the only one who understands law according to your post. You don’t even understand the principle of regulations it appears.
Once you are elected to Parliament I hope you stand for election as Prime Minister as you have said you will do. _________________ Austi Scot MP
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