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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Letter genders/personalities
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Last night I was flipping through a book about names (a pretty non-scientific book so unfortunately I can't discuss it here sad , but a very very interesting book sticking your tongue out ) which has a big focus on letters. It said the 'feminine, flirty F' and I thought 'uh, no, F is male'  -- and then I realized what I'd just thought.  whoa! As far as I know my letters have no gender or personality, but I had a very strong feeling that that book was wrong about F.

The book also said that G is a more mature version of the childish C and that J is a judging letter (judging as in skilled at discerning the truth). I don't have any strong 'no way that's wrong' or 'yep that's right' responses to those though. How about you guys?

Later today if I have time, I'm going through the whole thing and seeing how much more  grapheme -> syn  X stimulus evokes X response  personality -> syn I might have!
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject:
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I agree with you - F is definitely male. But I don't have much of a response for the others. I don't have many personalities for letters or numbers, only really for chemical elements.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject:
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I agree too, F is male! I'm amazed you feel like this too, Kela. I normally recognize the personalities of the letters only when I meet contradictions, and I say to myself: "Oh, no, that can't be true!". Otherwise I don't seem to notice them much. Except maybe the personality of the letter "a", since he/she's a very shy epicene  whoa!  and this just makes it too obvious!
G is about 45 years old and a bit too strict. I don't like him, cause he looks insincere.
And there is no way for J to be a judging letter - he's just a naughty little kid with bad temper.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject:
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F is totally male, it's interesting to see that consensus so far. Maybe one for the Trends thread.

I haven't looked at the rest of the book yet, but I managed to read the chapter on A. The author said A is the alpha male of the alphabet and I immediately thought 'wrong-o! A's totally female."  whoa! again. Then I started wondering if my own syn was affecting that perception (since A is pink), but I thought about it and decided it's not. My A goes white in a lot of words, and even then she's always a girl. Especially capital A at the start of a word. Very girly.

And this is still astonishing to me. I never thought my letters had anything like this at all.  big smile
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject:
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F is male.   Which is odd for me to say because I really don't get a gender/personality response for letters/numbers.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject:
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Kela wrote:
And this is still astonishing to me. I never thought my letters had anything like this at all.  big smile


Me too, untill once I talked to a friend about the name "Poema" being (the name itself, I mean) male or female, since as he told me, some letters got no gender association to them. I'm sorry for 'bursting' out of the subject, but then it struck me that he's a synesthete too  sticking your tongue out  which is cool. He thought "Poema" is female, while I argued and said it is male. I realized I think so, because the letter P is male.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject:
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Yup, I agree. F is most definitely male. For what it's worth, he's also E's brother. I don't really get personalities for letters but do have some relationships among them!
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject:
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Discovering a potential new syn is always great, isn't it?

I'm agreeing with the consensus - F is male. And I've always said A is female, but now I'm realising it might be like O/o - capital is female, little 'a' is inclined to be male (although I'm not sure - it may be that handwritten a is male whereas types 'a' (with the hook on top) is female or neutral...)

It occured to me, though - I think the author may be going by spelling - 'flirty F' and 'judging J' and all. But it could be a coincidence - do you think they could be synesthetic too?
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject:
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It occured to me, though - I think the author may be going by spelling - 'flirty F' and 'judging J' and all. But it could be a coincidence - do you think they could be synesthetic too?

lol, that's part of the pseudoscientific nature of the book that unfortunately we can't discuss here, but I'm going to give an operational definition of the book's premise for clarity's sake, with the understanding that we can't discuss the validity of such a premise here:

You're right, the author is going by spelling, saying that the letters contained in a person's name have a direct effect on that person's personality. I haven't read enough of the book (like the introductory chapters in the front) to know if it's a synesthetic thing of the author's that he's presenting in a pseudoscientific way, or if it's something else. But I started this thread because whatever the book's basis is, it led me to a new facet of my own syn and that's always exciting, and because I know we can keep the pseudoscience separate.

BTW, tee -- now that you mention relationships, I do have one pair of letters like that. M and N are related somehow but I have no idea exactly how... worried/unsure
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject:
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Yup, I agree. F is most definitely male. For what it's worth, he's also E's brother. I don't really get personalities for letters but do have some relationships among them!


smile  This reminds me of a picture of the alphabet I did recently. I figured that the letters possess certain places in my field of vision, and some letters form groups, because they 'get on well' together. Letters that haven't got much 'friends' stand on the edges. Like the shy "a" is in the upper left corner, while "d", who's not very sociable (but close to his big brother "t") stands in the upper right corner.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject:
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This isn't completely related...but has to do with you finding new syntypes, kela. I find that I have some really obsure syntypes (like letter personalities) and some tough ones (like numbers and long names). If you just ask what personality a letter has I might be a little vague, but I can usually tell whether something is right or wrong. So you've probably always had that little letter personality syntype hiding in your brain...you just needed this book to bring it out! Try writing down or thinking about specific personalities for letters and seeing if they sounds right or wrong, that might help you find out some of the rest of them (and find out if you have letter personality syn).

And I definitely agree that F is male! wink.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject:
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Kela - do you have any favourite graphemes? And, if so, do you know why? Because before I knew about syn, when I hadn't paid any conscious attention to my grapheme-personality, I had favourites, and since discovering syn, I realise they're the ones whose personalities I like best. e, i, k, n, v, 1, 3, 5, 6, 8 and 11.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject:
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I know this wasn't directed to me...but I'm going to comment anyway cool .

I don't really consider myself to have  personality -> syn syn but my favorite letters are b,c,e,l,t,u,w,y in fact that combination just looks so pretty! As far as numbers go: 5 is definitely the best and it's light-hot pink, 3 is also good and it's light green. I also like 14 which is blue, 15 which is light pink, 2 is bold blue and the 20s are nice. 10 i also like though it's color isn't as clear. 5 is one of the only personalities i can get which is an outgoing, fun, and bubbly girl. now that i think of it though, 14 is a boy and also outgoing.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject:
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Your experience is pretty similar to how I discovered my  grapheme -> syn  X stimulus evokes X response  personality -> syn . I was reading A Mango-Shaped Space, and I found myself thinking "A girly D? That's so wrong, it's funny" and "Eight isn't shy or flirt! Eight is a rude bore!" and "Now that I agree with- three is shy". I thought about it some more, and I realized I did have genders and personalities after all.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject:
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Fogwolf wrote:
Kela - do you have any favourite graphemes? And, if so, do you know why?

whoa! I never thought of that. G and 6 are my top favorites, but I know that's because they're green. But there's also A, L, J, and sometimes K. I'm pretty sure J is a non-syn association, but just a second ago I thought 'but I know I like A for who she is.'  exclamation point And whether I like K usually depends on what other letters are around it...hmm.

I haven't had a chance to look at all my graphemes closely yet, but what  personality -> syn responses I do have seem pretty weak. As in non-detailed. Like the kind of things beth wrote, I don't have particulars like that. It's more the generalities like MRB posted. Like I knew a while ago that my numbers do have faint genders -- all odds seem to be male and all evens seem to be female -- but so far that seems to be it.

But thanks for the new way of thinking about why I like/dislike graphemes. I can't wait to sit down with that one and have a good look.
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