H used to be navy blue, now light brownish yellow
M used to be graysih blue, now wine colored (sometimes pink depending on the word)
N same thing as M only duller red
O white to black
I've had a few graphemes change color on me in the last couple of years:
F - used to be yellow, now more brownish
L - used to be lavender, now yellow
S - used to be brownish gray, now blue
2 - used to be red, now is a bluish mishmash
And of course my 8, I still can't nail down at all
I've been trying to figure out why they might have changed and haven't come up with much. Anybody else had anything change on them?
Yes, all of my letters changed colours when I discovered my projected syn. I have no idea why it happened. 'U' remained deep blue as it was, tho. Also my colours for numbers didn't change, only 1 turned from light blue into red.
Interesting, guys, thanks! And I forgot to mention my J, which used to be dark blue but is now caramel colored.
pinkcapricorn, when you say all your letters changed when you discovered your projected -- that had to be so disorienting! Did they change drastically, like (for example) a red A becoming light yellow? Or just slight changes, like a red A going maroon?
I've actually wondered whether any of my letters changing might be SUI from seeing others' letter-colors here. Especially my L, since that seems to be a pretty common L color. Not entirely sure, but the new colors don't feel 'wrong' in any way to me. Anybody who's had letters change, do the new colors feel 'wrong' to you? Just curious.
pinkcapricorn, when you say all your letters changed when you discovered your projected -- that had to be so disorienting! Did they change drastically, like (for example) a red A becoming light yellow? Or just slight changes, like a red A going maroon?
Kela, I posted this on the other Nexus some time ago:
The first time I experienced syn was just five months ago. I think I gained it without any "catalyst". I woke up one morning and I noticed that my letters were coloured. I thought I was going crazy though I knew what it was. Normally I was unable to imagine projected syn since I never had it till that moment. I always just knew the colours of the letters and those I 'knew' were quite different from the colours I actually see now. So I freaked when I realized that the letteres are colours! It was surprisingly strong for a first experience and the colours were more noticeable than the letters. It is not always that strong, it tend to decrease at times.
Actually, now I can recall that a couple of times before I gain
syn, I was able to see the yellow letters, first 's' appeared in colour. After that I noticed red Rs and light purple Ls, then discovered that 'a' is turquoise green (most of the time). I guess the change was drastic, tho. I used to 'know' that 's' was deep blue, and it suddenly appeared to be bright yellow (now I'm able even to associate sunlight with the letter 's'), and there was no green 's' as a stage in it's transformation. But there were uncertain letters that used to be whatnot colour before their final development, like m, n, x, h, p.
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Not entirely sure, but the new colors don't feel 'wrong' in any way to me. Anybody who's had letters change, do the new colors feel 'wrong' to you? Just curious.
I recognized that the colours I see were the right ones immediately, tho it still seemed a bit strange to me. I can feel letters as they have layers, they are not exactly flat, so when I saw the coloured letters, they seemed to 'radiate' colours from the inside.
Some of my blue letters have turned black or very dark blue. It's most noticable on M. He's difinately more black than blue now. But I agree with you that it doesn't seem wrong. It just seems like they're maturing!
I just read this book called The Brain That Changes Itself, and the premise is that people's brains change over time. So, if syn comes from cross-wired neurons, there's no reason why those neurons can't change around and cross-wired with something else.
That is to say, the bit of your brain that deals with the letter E and the bit that deals with the color blue might be linked right now, but the E-bit might up and attach itself to the part that deals with the color orange someday.
In which case, bye-bye to one of the main syn criteria.
In which case, bye-bye to one of the main syn criteria.
Maybe...I still think consistency holds, since changes don't seem too common, and on the whole they're very gradual. But that is something to think about...*ponders*
I agree with Kela - the main thing with consistency, I think, is just that a particular stimulus isn't green this time, and blue and sweet the next time, then orange and shiny and cold...
So long as things are more or less consistent, gradual or isolated, idiosyncratic changes can be a part of it.
I don't know if this is a real change or not, but I'm coming to realise some letters I've previously classed as female actually depend for their gender on case - A has always definitely been a girl, a may not be. Although, now that I look at it, I'm not sure I can see the same girl-ness in A as I used to...
Kela - I remember you saying that Ed's hair on my avatar was colour-colour lavender for you, and that it was interesting since your L had gone from lavender to this kind of yellow - do you still have that colour-colour response? It may be that those two colours are synesthetically closely connected for you.
I agree with Kela - the main thing with consistency, I think, is just that a particular stimulus isn't green this time, and blue and sweet the next time, then orange and shiny and cold...
So long as things are more or less consistent, gradual or isolated, idiosyncratic changes can be a part of it.
I agree completely - I also think that the changes are usually not very drastic. For example, if a letter went from to in a week, that would be a little weird. But if the letter changed from to over the course of 6 months that would be a little different. For me, when I have a week syn response from a grapheme, I can almost always tell whether it is a warm color or a cool color, or dark or light. So for something to change from a dark cool color to a light warm color would be a little weird. Does anyone else get this dark/light warm/cool feeling even when you don't know the actual color itself?
EDIT: after saying that...I looked back on my changed letters and they do seem a little drastic. If 20 graphemes changed I would be worried but I think what we've mentioned about our changing graphemes is ok.
Another thing with consistency is -- once a grapheme changes, is the new response consistent? All my changed graphemes haven't budged since 'maturing', as Tonya put it . So I think consistency still holds.
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Does anyone else get this dark/light warm/cool feeling even when you don't know the actual color itself?
For me it's more often that I get a very strong feeling that I know what color something isn't. But I know what you're talking about.
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Kela - I remember you saying that Ed's hair on my avatar was colour-colour lavender for you, and that it was interesting since your L had gone from lavender to this kind of yellow - do you still have that colour-colour response? It may be that those two colours are synesthetically closely connected for you.
Interesting thought, except my L is now kind of halfway between these yellows whereas Ed's hair doesn't look quite that yellow to me. But -- now that you mention it, the syn color I get from his hair is very much like -- which is the color L used to be!
My A, I, R, Y, 1, and a few others have changed a bit. Some have just become a bit more clear. For example, F used to be a dark navy blue-purple, now it has more of the dark purple color than the navy blue. Others like that have more navy blue or even a tad more black to them.
My 1 used to be about this color , but now it's more of a brown-black/gray color with a hint of the red-brown color.
Y used to be white, now it is a light silver color.
R is now two colors. I can't remember which one it used to be, but now it is either a dark navy blue (like many of my letters...) or somewhere between these . I guess more like the last one, but more of a dried blood color to it. It's sometimes one color, sometimes the other, and sometimes both at the same time yet only one. Does that make sense?
I used to be a light blue, between , but now it is more of a light (and sometimes darker) silver-gray. Sort of like those (the background colors, not the ! or anything).
A used to be an orange-ish color, now it varies quite a bit, from mango-ish, to macaroni orange, to even a very light pink. I think my A and I, as well as a few of my other letters, like E, really depend on what word they are in (because I see each individual letter equally, not words as just one or two colors ... which stinks sometimes).
Kela - I remember you saying that Ed's hair on my avatar was colour-colour lavender for you, and that it was interesting since your L had gone from lavender to this kind of yellow - do you still have that colour-colour response? It may be that those two colours are synesthetically closely connected for you.
Interesting thought, except my L is now kind of halfway between these yellows whereas Ed's hair doesn't look quite that yellow to me. But -- now that you mention it, the syn color I get from his hair is very much like -- which is the color L used to be!
Okay, that's weird. But cool.
This is strange! I always get a red response to black, and green response to pale yellow but I didn't know this is syn too!
For me, when I have a week syn response from a grapheme, I can almost always tell whether it is a warm color or a cool color, or dark or light. So for something to change from a dark cool color to a light warm color would be a little weird. Does anyone else get this dark/light warm/cool feeling even when you don't know the actual color itself?
Yes, I sometimes get the dark/light and warm/cool feeling. You just made me realize that to me dry/wet feeling of graphemes is much more noticeable. I think this is a sort of syn, since h is like a mushroom to touch.
Also, shining and dull letters are easy to define, even if I can't see their colours clearly.
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syn. I have no idea why it happened. 'U' remained deep blue as it was, tho. Also my colours for numbers didn't change, only 1 turned from light blue into red.
Especially my L, since that seems to be a pretty common L color. Not entirely sure, but the new colors don't feel 'wrong' in any way to me. Anybody who's had letters change, do the new colors feel 'wrong' to you? Just curious.
to 
in a week, that would be a little weird. But if the letter changed from 
to 
over the course of 6 months that would be a little different. For me, when I have a week syn response from a grapheme, I can almost always tell whether it is a warm color or a cool color, or dark or light. So for something to change from a dark cool color to a light warm color would be a little weird. Does anyone else get this dark/light warm/cool feeling even when you don't know the actual color itself?
whereas Ed's hair doesn't look quite that yellow to me. But -- now that you mention it, the syn color I get from his hair is very much like 
those (the background colors, not the ! or anything).
syn, since h is like a mushroom to touch.
