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PATCHES SR. Chaplain User is Offline Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 12997 Karma: 16 applaud / smite Location: Randolph, County N.C. 9216 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: N.C. barracks video draws attention · Quote Here another problem that really set me on fire. There is no excuse for this either. ASSOCIATED PRESS ARTICLE LOCAL NEWSPAPER AUTHOR: UNKNOWN N.C. barracks video draws attention to conditions RALEIGH (AP) - A video shot by the father of an 82nd Airborne Division soldier that shows poor conditions such as mold in a barracks at Fort Bragg caught the attention Friday of a U.S. senator and high-ranking Army officials.   Ed Frawley, a dog breeder from Menomonie, Wis., posted the narrated video on You-Tube.com on Tuesday after traveling to North Carolina to welcome his son, Sgt. Jeff Frawley, home from a 15-month tour in Afghanistan.   The video shows peeling paint, mold, a bathroom drain plugged with what appears to be sewage and a broken room door lock, conditions that Frawley described as disgusting and embarrasing.   "The instant you walk through the front door, you know you are in a building that should be condemned," he said.   Sen. Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., said she contacted the Army secretary after learning of the barracks' condition. "Our service members deserve safe, clean housing," she said. "If this video posting accurately portrays living conditions for our soldiers, this is wholly unacceptable and it must be immediately corrected."   Rep. Bob Etheridge, D-N.C., whose district includes Fort Bragg, agreed.   "Although the military continues to be stretched thin during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no excuse for substandard housing for our soldiers," Etheridge said.   Maj. Tom Earnhardt, spokesman for the 82nd Airborne, said the conditions are "appalling and unacceptable," but said the post must use the buildings that the Army provides.   One problem was that maintenance and repairs weren't complete because the soldiers in C Company, 2nd Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, came home three weeks ahead of schedule, he said. The barracks had been empty, except for brief periods, since the company left Fort Bragg.   The Army hosted a tour of the barracks for the news media. Many of the buildings used by the division were built in the 1950s, but are being replaced. About 40 of the old buildings remain, and all single paratroopers are scheduled to be in new buildings by 2012. How embarrasing for our state to be shown in such a manner, how embarrasing for Fort Bragg to know the conditions of these barracks and not making some other arrangments for the troops coming home. Even if they were three weeks early they should never have been put in these barracks. They should not have been allowed to get into these conditions in the first place, sounds to me like it has been going on for a long time. Much longer than 15 months. Why didn't they start repairs as soon as the troops pulled out so that they would be ready when they returned. If they do not have enough help on base there is always the reserves that they could call in to help with the repairs for these guys and gals that are out there putting their lives on the line for us here at home. Okay, I'm finished now, no more ranting. _________________ Staff Moderator Company XO   M.S.T. Charlie CO. SR. Forum Chaplain I used to ask God if He would come and help me. Then I asked if I could come and help Him. Finally I ended by asking God to do His own work through me.
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Rmlp34 Sgt. Major of the Army User is Offline Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 572 Karma: 20 applaud / smite Location: South Ms. 675 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:15 am    Post subject: · Quote Hey Patches do you know where I can get a link to this. I would love to send it out. I just don't understand why crap like this happens. Thank you so much for posting it! _________________ Staff member Company Liaison M.S.T. Delta Co http://www.myspace.com/purvismomof2
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PATCHES SR. Chaplain User is Offline Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 12997 Karma: 16 applaud / smite Location: Randolph, County N.C. 9216 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: · Quote Sorry Robbin I don't. All I know is what it said in the paper that it was shown on YouTube. I could not find it. Maybe Outsider will and will post the link. I wanted to see it for myself, but no luck. I just don't know how to find things on YouTube. Maybe we will find it soon. _________________ Staff Moderator Company XO   M.S.T. Charlie CO. SR. Forum Chaplain I used to ask God if He would come and help me. Then I asked if I could come and help Him. Finally I ended by asking God to do His own work through me.
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Rmlp34 Sgt. Major of the Army User is Offline Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 572 Karma: 20 applaud / smite Location: South Ms. 675 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: · Quote Oh ok will then I am off to play on youtube. If I find it I will send the link to him because I have yet to understand how to do that. LOL I hope you are doing well my friend!! _________________ Staff member Company Liaison M.S.T. Delta Co http://www.myspace.com/purvismomof2
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PATCHES SR. Chaplain User is Offline Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 12997 Karma: 16 applaud / smite Location: Randolph, County N.C. 9216 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: · Quote Good luck in finding it, I have not given up on it just not looking at the moment. And thanks, we are doing a heck of a lot better now that we got a little back from Jim's tax return. Finally able to catch up on everything. _________________ Staff Moderator Company XO   M.S.T. Charlie CO. SR. Forum Chaplain I used to ask God if He would come and help me. Then I asked if I could come and help Him. Finally I ended by asking God to do His own work through me.
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PATCHES SR. Chaplain User is Offline Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 12997 Karma: 16 applaud / smite Location: Randolph, County N.C. 9216 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: · Quote I found the video under Barracks for Charlie Co 2/508 82n Airborne, but could not figure out how to post it here. Sorry. It really is awful conditions and you can tell by the pictures that this has been going on for years and years. Nothing has been done to maintain these barracks. I read one blog from a soldier in another state that said the barracks at fort bragg looked like the hilton compared to the ones they had to stay in. This is really unacceptable conditions for men and women serving our country. _________________ Staff Moderator Company XO   M.S.T. Charlie CO. SR. Forum Chaplain I used to ask God if He would come and help me. Then I asked if I could come and help Him. Finally I ended by asking God to do His own work through me.
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afsp90_02 Chairman Joint Chiefs User is Offline Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 11253 Karma: 14 applaud / smite Location: North Carolina 28875 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: · Quote Here y'all go. If this doesn't disgust you, along with the "No Food Article" from last week you are not an American much less a human being.... <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/46vYZFU1Dew&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/46vYZFU1Dew&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> _________________ Administrator Forum Chairman Joint Chiefs [Staff CO] Commanding Officer[CO] Forum awards comity Moderator Staff Company staff officer M.S.T. Bravo CO.     Last edited by afsp90_02 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:58 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Outsider Asst. Admin User is Offline Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 4203 Karma: 27 applaud / smite Location: North Carolina 32274 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: · Quote Here is the ONLY video I've found regarding this situation. EDIT I see afsp found it bout the same time I did so video I posted is removed since his is above I've posted the link below for any one that wishes to pass it along In my opinion this is just damn OUTRAGEOUS!!! How dare our government treat the men and women who are swown to protect our country  with this much dissregard!! If any of you wish to send out the link to it you may give them the link to this thread, Or thi link direct to the vido which is below http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4P-camUjjk _________________ <table border="0" bordercolor="#F6FCFD" width="1" bgcolor="#F6FCFD"> <tr> <td>  </td> <td> </td> </tr>Commanding Officer M.S.T. Alpha company <tr> <td> </td> </tr> </table>
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Rmlp34 Sgt. Major of the Army User is Offline Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 572 Karma: 20 applaud / smite Location: South Ms. 675 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: · Quote This is plain and simple BS and it makes me sick to know this is how we allow our soldiers to be treated. My heart hurts, my eyes are full of tears, and my mouth wants to scream words I should not say. I am not sure what we can all do but to do the same we have done already. I think now instead of emails I am going to do phone calls. If we can't take care of these men and woman, then bring them all home and be done with both wars. I can't sleep tonight do to my neck and back hurting so I am going to find links to all of Rep in each state and post here. I will find the links to every damn main news media I can. All I can say is God bless them the fight for them has just begun I ask everyone on this board to do something. As for as the food problem if for some damn reason they have to go 9-12 hrs without food they better damn well be able to eat whatever or as much as they want when they get back!!! Enough my dear friends is plain and simple ENOUGH... _________________ Staff member Company Liaison M.S.T. Delta Co http://www.myspace.com/purvismomof2
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Rmlp34 Sgt. Major of the Army User is Offline Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 572 Karma: 20 applaud / smite Location: South Ms. 675 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: · Quote How guys CNN has it up already! http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/28/barracks.bragg/index.html Here's the links to write your Rep's I will post two. https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/index.html _________________ Staff member Company Liaison M.S.T. Delta Co http://www.myspace.com/purvismomof2
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Oneactual Sgt. Major of the Army User is Offline Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 925 Karma: 6 applaud / smite Location: Dallas TX 325 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: · Quote Holy BS batman!! I cannot believe what I just saw on that video Man that gets the irritation levels waay too high for my comfort zone. I'll do what I can and make some noise to those who matter and can fix this issue. _________________    AS you were   Company XO M.S.T. Delta company Primo victoria<---click to watch cool video "They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old. Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." ~Laurence Binyon WWI Purple Heart <--video
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ladyfirefighter LT Chaplain User is Offline Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 376 Karma: 6 applaud / smite Location: North Carolina 10793 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: · Quote How embarassing for this country!!!!  You know that people in other countries will see this....what must they be thinking of our military and country.  Please have some pride!!!  Clean that up for our guys and gals who work to protect us!!!!!!!!!!! _________________ Established member 25+Posts LT. Forum Chaplain Company Liaison M.S.T. Charlie Company Joint OPs member Kelly G <embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="304" height="244" src="http://widgets.clearspring.com/p/9ko1YDk2Mjc2bDZsN20wZ2QzLGE5bTgxYmUxMTRkYDMwYTJ4NWA5NjdlYGM2Zj YzZ2ZkZA" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="always" allownetworking="all" id="W4889dc00d51af143"> </embed> <a target="_blank"href="http://www.freepowerboards.com/firerescue/index.php">Emergency Personnel and Friends!</a> <a target="_blank"href="http://www.freepowerboards.com/storkseekers/index.php">Stork Seekers</a> <a target="_blank"href="http://www.freepowerboards.com/sewfine/index.php">Sew Fine</a>
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afsp90_02 Chairman Joint Chiefs User is Offline Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 11253 Karma: 14 applaud / smite Location: North Carolina 28875 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: · Quote I just got this a couple minutes ago y'all; By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer 4 minutes ago WASHINGTON - Army officials said Tuesday they are inspecting every barracks building worldwide to see whether plumbing and other problems revealed at Fort Bragg, N.C., last week are widespread. ADVERTISEMENT Brig. Gen. Dennis Rogers, who is responsible for maintaining barracks throughout the Army, told reporters at the Pentagon that most inspections were done last weekend but he had not seen final results. While not providing specifics about problems discovered during the weekend inspections, Rogers indicated some deficiencies were corrected. In cases where extensive repairs are deemed necessary, the soldiers in that housing would be moved elsewhere until the fixes are completed, he added. Rogers said it was too soon to know whether the Fort Bragg problem was an isolated incident. He acknowledged the revelations from a video shot by the father of an 82nd Airborne Division soldier showing poor conditions such as mold inside the barracks, peeling interior paint and a bathroom drain plugged with sewage. The soldier's father, Ed Frawley, said he was disgusted by the conditions that greeted his son and the rest of his 82nd Airborne unit that returned on April 7-8 after a 15-month tour of duty in Afghanistan. "We let our soldiers down, and that's not like us," Rogers told reporters. "We let our soldiers down. That's not how we want America's sons and daughters to live. There's no good excuse for what happened." He said the problems in that building have been fixed and that a final paint job is in the works. It is one of 24 barracks at Fort Bragg that were built in the 1950s and are scheduled for demolition by 2013. The barracks singled out by Frawley had been remodeled in April 2006, Rogers said. Rogers said the Army's standard procedure is to inspect a barracks building to verify that it meets Army standards before it is occupied by soldiers returning from an overseas deployment. For reasons he was unable to explain, that apparently did not happen in the Fort Bragg incident. A spokesman for Fort Bragg, Tom McCollum, told the same group of reporters that the post, which is one of the Army's largest with a population of 51,000 soldiers — including more than 12,000 who live on the post — is saddled with 1950s-vintage housing that is not popular with soldiers. Of the more than 12,000 in barracks at Fort Bragg, about 2,500 are in those built in the 1950s, Army spokesman Paul Boyce said. "Are soldiers happy with living in the Korean War-era barracks? No," McCollum said. They do not meet the expectations of today's troops, although the Army has done what it can to improve living conditions, McCollum said, speaking by telephone from Fort Bragg. "Today, no matter how hard we try, we can't put enough lipstick on this pig to make it more pretty," the spokesman said. "So are there soldiers complaining? Yeah." He said they've been complaining for decades. _________________ Administrator Forum Chairman Joint Chiefs [Staff CO] Commanding Officer[CO] Forum awards comity Moderator Staff Company staff officer M.S.T. Bravo CO.
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Outsider Asst. Admin User is Offline Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 4203 Karma: 27 applaud / smite Location: North Carolina 32274 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: · Quote Quote: In cases where extensive repairs are deemed necessary, the soldiers in that housing would be moved elsewhere until the fixes are completed Well, It is a start, at least someone got the attention of somebody. _________________ <table border="0" bordercolor="#F6FCFD" width="1" bgcolor="#F6FCFD"> <tr> <td>  </td> <td> </td> </tr>Commanding Officer M.S.T. Alpha company <tr> <td> </td> </tr> </table>
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afsp90_02 Chairman Joint Chiefs User is Offline Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 11253 Karma: 14 applaud / smite Location: North Carolina 28875 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: · Quote Outsider wrote: Quote: In cases where extensive repairs are deemed necessary, the soldiers in that housing would be moved elsewhere until the fixes are completed Well, It is a start, at least someone got the attention of somebody. Yes it is, but the sad part is that it took a bunch of pissed off Americans and a leak to the press to get the Army off their collective a**es and make an effort to fix this horrible problem. But at least it LOOKs like they may be getting a start. _________________ Administrator Forum Chairman Joint Chiefs [Staff CO] Commanding Officer[CO] Forum awards comity Moderator Staff Company staff officer M.S.T. Bravo CO.
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Rmlp34 Sgt. Major of the Army User is Offline Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 572 Karma: 20 applaud / smite Location: South Ms. 675 points 0 warnings 0 tempbans	Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: · Quote It is a start and I am very glad for that. VERY sad it got to this and it took a dad to bring light to it. But very glad that they will look into it and start to repair. _________________ Staff member Company Liaison M.S.T. Delta Co http://www.myspace.com/purvismomof2
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