Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Postby lincolngreen50 on Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:46 am

The Archbishop of Canterbury will become the first leader of the Church of England to make a pilgrimage to the Roman Catholic shrine of Lourdes this week.
The visit will be made as part of the Church's mission to achieve Christian unity, Lambeth Palace said.
Rowan Williams will preach at the International Mass on Wednesday, which is being celebrated by His Eminence Cardinal Walter Kasper, President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity.
His presence at the Shrine of Our Lady of Lourdes in the Pyrenees in France coincides with its 150th anniversary celebrations.
Catholics believe that the Virgin Mary made 18 apparitions to a French peasant girl called Bernadette Soubirous in a grotto in Lourdes in 1858. The shrine has since been visited by millions of pilgrims from across the world.
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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-ne ... -21866706/
Revelation 18:4-5
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

This is another example of Rowan Williams`s liberal undertaking to the Catholic Church and the deception that he is partaking in
The Lord warns us of things that do not come from Him and Jesus tells us that He is the only way to the Father.Jesus alone is the only intermediatory to the Father.
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Re: Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Postby IamRedeemed on Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:57 pm

Totally unBiblical and the apparitions are not holy, nor are they of God and the shrines are evidence of the idolatry.
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Re: Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Postby Rut on Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:01 pm

A little background on Bernadette: The Catholic church has elevated Bernadette Soubirous to the level of patron saint of sick persons. Her body is preserved in the Shrine of Bernadette at Nevers. The article on Bernadette----->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Bernadette She was sickly all of her life with asthma and later tuberculosis. Were these apparitions figments of her imagination, or were they demonic phenomena? We will never know. Bernadette is venerated because her body didn't rot, and she saw these apparitions. And now the Archbishop of Canterbury is being sucked into believing this nonsense along with Rowan Williams.
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Re: Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Postby IamRedeemed on Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:49 pm

Yes, I am aware of that and that practice is deeply rooted in paganism. They also have a few skulls of different "venerated saints" such as this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiousexp ... otostream/ (and in this thread here viewtopic.php?f=8&t=196&start=0) and the "mummified remains" of "St. Catherine" as well. http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiousexp ... otostream/
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Re: Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Postby Rut on Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:56 am

I posted a bunch of links in that thread showing the ghastly practice. With the catholic church doing stuff like this it really make me wonder of the apparitions were demons rather than just imaginary. Imaginary things don't inspire people to disturbing religious practices. Keeping the dead bodies of their kings was one of the practices that God condemned in Israel.
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Re: Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Postby IamRedeemed on Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:09 pm

Well, one way to judge whether the apparitions were angelic or demonic is which way they point. I don't think they were imaginary though, but that is possible. Unless they were silent, then it is pretty easy to discern and expose them for what they are (or where they come from) by judging what they say. As even the Holy Spirit will lead us to Christ to give Him the glory and not to Himself. On the other, are you referring to Ezekiel 43?


Rut wrote:I posted a bunch of links in that thread showing the ghastly practice. With the catholic church doing stuff like this it really make me wonder of the apparitions were demons rather than just imaginary. Imaginary things don't inspire people to disturbing religious practices. Keeping the dead bodies of their kings was one of the practices that God condemned in Israel.
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Re: Archbishop to visit Catholic shrine

Postby Rut on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:24 am

Yes that is the very one. God was not happy with Israel. The bodies were associated with defilement.

Ezekiel 43: 7-9

7And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.

8In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have consumed them in mine anger.

9Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever.
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