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By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is calling digital security a top priority, whether it's guarding the computer systems that keep the lights on in the city and direct airliners to the right runway or those protecting customers who pay their bills online.

To oversee an enhanced security system for the nation's computer networks, Obama is creating a "cyber czar" as part of a long-awaited plan stemming from a review he ordered shortly after taking office.

On Friday, Obama is expected to lay out broad goals for dealing with cyber threats while depicting the U.S. as a digital nation that needs to provide the education required to keep pace with technology and attract and retain a cyber-savvy work force. He also is expected to call for a new education campaign to raise public awareness of the challenges and threats related to cyber security.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090529/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_cyber_struggles

welcome to communist america!

Its been a long time coming. Hell i wanna say a hacker attack was run on the pentagon months ago.

YourPonyDied wrote:

Its been a long time coming. Hell i wanna say a hacker attack was run on the pentagon months ago.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

learn your histoy pony and stop given my freedom away for temporary safety.

OldSchool wrote:

YourPonyDied wrote:

Its been a long time coming. Hell i wanna say a hacker attack was run on the pentagon months ago.

Your statement can be lumped into any authority force, police, etc.

Also as for your communism crap, There is still this massive thing called the Supreme Court. When you figure the majority of US business both government and private is done electronically, it would be terrifying to have an inadequate internet security base. Hell, months ago it was reported the US power grid was hacked into(presumably chineese hackers) Imagine the Havoc caused if an entire section of the US went out like it did last time on the west coast. Despite it being Hollywood, the last Die Hard movie is very apt as to the vulnerability and the potential danger our security and electronic systems are. Plus just dumb people who click on stupid things and end up with viruses that make their computers drones\zombies for DDOS attacks or other system attacks. It also costs alot of money and manhours to fix a database or a server and yes, i realize its a fine line between protecting private information as well as public information.
But you do realize there has been a computer\system in place since WW2 which monitors your phone calls and transmissions already don't you? Its called ECHELON. I have a bigger issue with that and thats a THREAT the ACLU recognizes as well

Would you feel better if the term was Cyber Caesar? Since the term is derived from that and has less "Nasty Russian" connotations

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"A witty saying proves nothing" -Voltaire

pony you have seen one to many movies and its to bad that you use a fictional story to come to the conclusion that we must give freedom away to be safe! some how pony, i can see you standing by a pile of burning books.

when are you people going to learn that you cant make criminals obey the laws by taking the liberty/freedoms from the good people who do obey the laws. its like gun control, if a criminal wants a gun, do you think the laws will stop them from getting that gun? hell no!

do you even know what a hacker is pony... let me guess you seen the movie hackers so your well informed. a hacker is a computer programer. the only way to stop a hacker is to stop teaching people how to program a computer. so programers are hackers and hackers are programers. you CAN NOT stop a hacker unless you out smart him and even then he or she will figure it out sooner or later.

taking freedom away will never protect you from a hacker, so get that in your head. this is about big corps like chrysler refusing to pay the money needed to protect us from hackers. so insted of forcing the people who created the mess to clean it up, you would rather take liberty/freedom away from people that obey the law. its people like you that have preachers being beat in the streets of america by the very people that are suppose to be protecting us.

pony your not a dumb man but you are ignorant to some facts... so before you give a yes vote to take more liberty/freedom away you need to get your facts stright. inform your self on how to protect your self from being hacked.

once again this is about big corp not wanting to shell out the money needed to protect its customers. they would rather have the tax payer pick up the tab and that always means a loss of liberty/freedom and more taxation.

never ever use a fictional story to derive a conclusion pony. be careful what you ask for becasue it wont be what you asked for. try looking up info on internet 2 and what that could mean for a webpage like the uaw 1268 talk page. someone started a pile of books on fire pony and now they are trying to get you to stoke the fire.

Doomsday For The Internet As We Know It?

Paul Joseph Watson February 6 2006

Several developments that are coming to the fore indicate a noticeable advance towards a government regulated, taxed and controlled system that spells doomsday for the Internet as we know it.

The first steps in a move to charge for every e mail sent have already been taken. Under the pretext of eliminating spam, Bill Gates and other industry chieftains have proposed Internet users buy credit stamps which denote how many e mails they will be able to send. This of course is the death knell for political newsletters and mailing lists.

The New York Times reports that "America Online and Yahoo, two of the world's largest providers of e-mail accounts, are about to start using a system that gives preferential treatment to messages from companies that pay from 1/4 of a cent to a penny each to have them delivered. The senders must promise to contact only people who have agreed to receive their messages, or risk being blocked entirely."

The end game is a system similar to China, whereby no websites even mildly critical of the government will be authorized.

The Pentagon admitted that they would engage in psychological warfare and cyber attacks on 'enemy' Internet websites in an attempt to shut them down. The fact that the NSA surveillance program spied on 5,000 Americans tells us that the enemy is the alternative media and that it will be targeted for elimination. Court cases are pending after the Bush administration demanded the Google search terms of American citizens.

The first wave will simply attempt to price people out of using the conventional Internet and force people over to Internet 2, a state regulated hub where permission will need to be obtained directly from an FCC or government bureau to set up a website.

The original Internet will then be turned into a mass surveillance database and marketing tool. The Nation magazine reported last week, "Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are developing strategies that would track and store information on our every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing system, the scope of which could rival the National Security Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these providers would have first priority on our computer and television screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply shut out."

We see a move to demonize the Internet and tar its reputation. AOL is running ads equating Internet users with terrorists. In the next few years we may see a staged Internet shutdown which is blamed on cyber terrorists.

For the aspiring dictator, the Internet is a dangerous tool that has been seized by the enemy. We have come a long way since 1969, when the ARPANET was created solely for US government use. The Internet is freedom's best friend and the bane of control freaks. Its eradication is one of the short term goals of those that seek to centralize power and subjugate the world under a global surveillance panopticon prison.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/060206internetdoomsday.htm

pony watch how they control your opinion.

OldSchool wrote:

Hacking is not a complex thing and you do not need to be a computer programmer. And yes, you use my reference to a movie to claim that i base all my opinions on fiction. Sure, go right ahead

Naturally you avoid the concept of Eschelon, which monitors every phone call made in the country

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your right my bad, people can get programs made by programmers that will let you hack a computer. with out the program made by a programmer, no one with out programing skills could do it.

eschelon was around before 911 and it just goes to show how the government does not obey the law of the constitution and the powers granted to the government by the constitution.

i did not avoid the concept of eschelon, i simply tryed to point you in the right direction of wher the real problem with hacking lays. corperations will save money on the programs they make. one of the ways they like to save money is in the security of the program. most program companys hire a team of programers to hack a program and check for security problems. companys like microsoft will cut corners to maximize profits at the expense of the customer and not hire the team to check for security.

since most the criminals in our government come from big corps... do you think they would think any differently then they did when they worked at microsoft or the power grid that was hacked?

hell for all we know this could just be a smoke screen. so one of obamas campaign contributors can make a quick buck off of a fat government contract? i know you think that they would or could never do this to us but hello... did you forget about dick cheney and halliburton already?

if obama has his way... he will take more freedom and tell us its all in the name of security. the tax payer will once again have to shell out freedom and tax dollars to fix some thing that big corp should of done right in the first place.

i will not live in fear of a hacker, terrorist or the boogieman! the only thing i fear are people who are willing to give up liberty/freedom for temporary safety.

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