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030708ETE
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| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject: Corporate service date question???? |
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Ok, I am a former ETE who is on "the list" to be called and expect I may get that call soon. I just have a question that maybe someone on here could answer. I get that it's "temporary" whatever that turns out to be, and I get that we would go back in at a lower wage, and in light of the local economy and job market situation I could deal with that. What I couldn't deal with is if the company and UAW doesn't count the 2 years full time service with a great record that I already have there. My question is will any returning ETE'S that they call back be retaining the 06/19/06 corporate service date from when we went in the first time and got our dcid numbers or will they lump us all in with any brand new hires off the street and give everyone going back a new 2009 corporate service date and thus acting like the ETE'S 2 years service didn't exist? My concern is that the first time around I had a high social (in the 8's) and was constantly the one to be bumped from team to team and used as a "floater" because I was an ETE with a high social. If we retained our 06/19/06 corporate date and any new hires off the street had a 2009 date that would at least help any returning ETE's to maybe be a little more settled and be able to stay on a certain team a little longer without being bounced around so much. The last thing I would want is to agree to go back in and immediately be bumped,bounced, and floated around because of my social and a new 18 year old kid hired off the street with no BAP service or experience could have a better situation than me because of a lower social. That would be hard for this 40 year old with 2 full time years in to swallow. Anyone on here know how this will work from past experience? Thanks. |
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BrianLaws
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030708ETE - Since this is an "UNOFFICIAL" forum, I'm going to give you my thoughts. I feel they will group all the new in with the old because we all know it's easier in the office to do it that way. To do it any other way would take time and add to costs in their eyes.
rextafier1 - I currently have not yet heard "OFFICIAL" word if the people from Belvidere that are currently working in Kenosha (like me) have to return or maybe have a choice. Time will soon tell.
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ResDcc
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Kinda curious as well, if this is a temp re-opening of 2nd shift, if they will even canvas 1st shift to see who wants to go to second. Seems like a lot of work to move people around for 2-3 months, then move them back after its all over.
Did the current contract and revised contract give them the power to use Temps like they are. What happened to the two tier system of Line Job and Offline jobs. We where told there was to be a certain % of the plant labeled as each, and if you worked a line job, you where to make Line pay? Anyone remember that speech we where given?
What about the promise from International, and the letter that was sent to the ETE's that the first job openings in this plant would be offered to us. Seems to me that if a shift is coming back and they are 500ish people (if not more) jobs short, then they should be hiring.
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Brothers and Sisters:
There have been several rumors about the return of a second production shift at our plant. As of last week, these rumors have been substantiated. This brings up a host of questions for all of us. We in Leadership have the same questions and concerns that you have. As of today, Friday, September 04, 2009, none of these questions have answers.
Therefore, to be prepared for everything, your Leadership is forced to work through every possible scenario that may play out. Such as;
1. Maximum Overtime, using one shift of production
2. Add a “temporary” second production shift
3. Add a “permanent” second production shift
There are different ramifications to each of the possible scenarios. Keep in mind that at this point, these are not options; they are simply scenarios that we may be faced with.
This Leadership is definitely hopeful that at some point we will have a permanent second production shift. But at this point, we can’t support the idea of adding a second shift that from its onset is planned to be short-term temporary.
In Solidarity,
UAW Local 1268 Leadership
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Got this email from my committeeman
Also I have heard that if they label 2nd shift temporary then people on first can't sign up or bump to 2nd shift and people on 2nd can't bump or sign up for jobs on 1st. |
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Kristie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Corporate service date question???? |
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| Ok, I am a former ETE who is on "the list" to be called and expect I may get that call soon. I just have a question that maybe someone on here could answer. I get that it's "temporary" whatever that turns out to be, and I get that we would go back in at a lower wage, and in light of the local economy and job market situation I could deal with that. What I couldn't deal with is if the company and UAW doesn't count the 2 years full time service with a great record that I already have there. My question is will any returning ETE'S that they call back be retaining the 06/19/06 corporate service date from when we went in the first time and got our dcid numbers or will they lump us all in with any brand new hires off the street and give everyone going back a new 2009 corporate service date and thus acting like the ETE'S 2 years service didn't exist? My concern is that the first time around I had a high social (in the 8's) and was constantly the one to be bumped from team to team and used as a "floater" because I was an ETE with a high social. If we retained our 06/19/06 corporate date and any new hires off the street had a 2009 date that would at least help any returning ETE's to maybe be a little more settled and be able to stay on a certain team a little longer without being bounced around so much. The last thing I would want is to agree to go back in and immediately be bumped,bounced, and floated around because of my social and a new 18 year old kid hired off the street with no BAP service or experience could have a better situation than me because of a lower social. That would be hard for this 40 year old with 2 full time years in to swallow. Anyone on here know how this will work from past experience? Thanks. |
If I remember right, we were told that if we were to ever come back after being "let go" we would start out as day one, so, we would be all lumped in together. Forgive me, I'm not so sure that it really matters, as this is just a temp job, and probably shouldn't be looked on as any differently. |
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BrianLaws
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We have all seen many of the regular "FULL-TIME" jobs in America (outside of the Unions) over the years receive a "TEMP" job classification. You know, full-time hours but with only part-time benefits. Our contract opened this up for the company to do!
Remember the movie "Poltergeist"
Well....
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Kristie
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I received an automated phone call yesterday stating: If you are interested in coming back temporarily, 2nd shift only: may start up Monday 09/14, and be done by 11/08. If interested call: 815-547-2143, and leave the following info: Name, CID#, Phone #, and location you have worked. Beyond this info I have no further details. I was an ETE that was let go March 2008, and was unable to come back the end of april due to being pregnant. Good luck to anyone interested, it is ONLY TEMPORARY WORK. |
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tds1
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: return to 2nd postponed |
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Just talked w/my neighbor who just recieved OFFICIAL word that 2nd has been postponed until November. I guess st louis people are coming in with a $5000 bonus if just temporary, or if permanent $50000 and get to stay. Anyone else recieved any info. I just work at syncreon and we have only been told about coming back Oct 5. |
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YourPonyDied
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I would question the shift even coming back this year at this rate
If they wait after jan 1, they dont have to pay any holiday pay for second shift. Also, I wouldn't be surprised they will keep postponing to try and knock out the most they can from overworking 1st |
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Edmund
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: .Chrysler delays return of second shift at Illinois plant |
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http://www.detnews.com/article/20090914/AUTO01/909140393/1148/rss25
Chrysler delays return of second shift at Illinois plant
Alisa Priddle / The Detroit News
Chrysler Group LLC is delaying the return of the second shift of workers at its Belvidere, Ill., plant by more than a month.
"Continued stresses on the automotive supplier base," is the explanation the automaker gave Monday in announcing the 850 affected workers will be recalled in mid-November.
The original plan was to increase production starting Oct. 5, adding 10,000 Dodge Caliber compact vehicles to help replenish supplies after the fuel-efficient hatchback proved popular during the "cash for clunkers" incentive programs.
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The automaker said Oct. 5 was a stretch and there were concerns whether all suppliers could increase the shipment of parts that quickly. In the end, one supplier could not and Chrysler decided to postpone the production boost to ensure a smooth return for the shift.
There is no impact on output of the Jeep Compass and Patriot, which also are made at the Belvidere facility.
The second shift will help build the last of the 2009 models and then prepare to assemble the 2010 Dodge Caliber, with a new interior, in early December.
There are 1,890 workers on one shift at the plant.
This week Chrysler is using the Frankfurt auto show to display a diesel-powered Caliber to bolster sales in Europe where diesels are more popular than gasoline engines. |
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YourPonyDied
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Is this related to KEP/Engine shortage? |
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BrianLaws
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| YourPonyDied wrote: |
| Is this related to KEP/Engine shortage? |
KEP builds V6 engines, nothing for BAP. |
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Was called today by JCI from the layoff list. Was told(and confirmed this from others who were called) that nothing is definite, may be 4 weeks, may be 7, may be indefinite, may not happen |
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