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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject:
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mike huckabee is a member of the council on foreign relations, open your eyes!


Psalms 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject:
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mike huckabee is a member of the council on foreign relations, open your eyes!


Where have you found this information verified Question
From everything I am finding, it is just the opposite Exclamation

Let's both put up or shut up.  

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I researched a little on CFR ... and I found that there are five Republican candidates are not CFR members: Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul. ...Huckabee has clearly come out against open borders between US and Canada, and some other concerns related to the CFR.  


http://hillings.blogspot.com/2007/09/its-official-we-are-endorsing-huckabee.html
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: For the record
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Mike Huckabee is not a member of the CFR Exclamation

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Mike Huckabee, though not a member, spoke to the CFR in September.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58425

Now back on the topic of Ron Paul for president.

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Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul said today that he could see no possible reason to ever launch military action or initiate a war, vowing instead to battle efforts he said are undermining the individual liberties of people in America.  In an interview with Washingtonpost.com's PostTalk program, the Texas congressman said he could see "no reason" to justify military action if he were elected president…Paul has been intensely opposed to the war in Iraq and to a potential attack against Iran during his campaign for the presidency. During this week's GOP debate in Dearborn, Mich., he once again became red-faced as he blasted the Middle East war effort.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101101555.html?hpid=topnews

I have been doing more research on Ron Paul and the issues during which I found the above story.  I do agree with Ron Paul that Congress should have the backbone to do their job and declare war; as I stated in a previous post.  I have always heard, “The best defense is a good offense.”   I believe I was right the first time.  Ron Paul is a pacifist that is weak on security.  He “said he could see “no reason” to justify military action.”  What is he planning to do?  Just wait for them to take over our country?  I have 5 married children (totaling10 including their spouses) and 18 grandchildren that I want protected from people who want to kill Americans.  Let’s refresh our memories a little.  What about “Death to America” attacks that happened decades ago Question Doesn’t anyone else remember the Iran hostage crisis of 1979 or the bombings of U.S. embassies and military sites, plane hijackings, etc.?  Unless I had my head buried in the sand; there is no way I could vote for this man Exclamation
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: For the record
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Mike Huckabee is not a member of the CFR Exclamation

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Mike Huckabee, though not a member, spoke to the CFR in September.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58425



granny why would he speak to the cfr members? why would the cfr have a bio and a speech for huckabee on their webpage? granny your good people and i hate to see good people get fooled. the cfr can not be trusted and anyone that has any thing to do with the cfr can not be trusted either. you vote for who you like and i will vote for ron paul.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject:
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granny why would he speak to the cfr members? why would the cfr have a bio and a speech for huckabee on their webpage?


As I stated on the other topic,
Speaking somewhere does not necessarily mean one is a member.  Many preachers have spoken to groups they do not agree with; oftentimes hoping to convert a few listeners.  If they would speak only to those that believe the same as they do they are “Preaching to the choir.” Smile
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why would the cfr have a bio and a speech for huckabee on their webpage?


Sometimes sites want their people to know who opposes their views.  I believe that is why some candidates refuse to answer questions by people printing information that opposes their views.  Case in point, how many pro-life candidates answer family planning questions and how many pro-choice candidates answer right to life questions?
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject:
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why would the cfr have a bio and a speech for huckabee on their webpage?


Sometimes sites want their people to know who opposes their views.  I believe that is why some candidates refuse to answer questions by people printing information that opposes their views.  Case in point, how many pro-life candidates answer family planning questions and how many pro-choice candidates answer right to life questions?


so the cfr would list huckabees speech as essential documents because they do not support him? like i said anyone that has any thing to do with the cfr can not be trusted.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject:
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Ron Paul Raises More Than $4 Million in One Day

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: November 6, 2007

Historians and British schoolchildren remember Guy Fawkes as the Roman Catholic, anti-Protestant rebel who on Nov. 5, 1605, tried to assassinate King James I by blowing up the Parliament. Supporters of the Republican primary campaign of the libertarian Representative Ron Paul may remember Fawkes as a wildly successful fund-raising gimmick.

On Monday, a group of Paul supporters helped raised more than $4.07 million in one day — approaching what the campaign raised in the entire last quarter — through a Web site called ThisNovember5th.com, a reference to the day the British commemorate the thwarted bombing.

Many fans of Mr. Paul know of the day primarily through a movie based on the futuristic graphic novel “V for Vendetta,” by Alan Moore and David Lloyd, in which a terrorist modeled after Fawkes battles a fascist government that has taken over Britain.

The Paul campaign has raised more than $6.84 million in the first five weeks of this quarter, more than the $5 million it raised from July 1 to Oct. 1. Many of the contributions appeared to come through the independent Fawkes effort, but how much was unclear.

On Monday alone, the campaign signed up more than 21,000 new donors, said Jesse Benton, a campaign spokesman.

Among 2008 presidential candidates, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York holds the record for raising the most in a single day: $6.2 million on June 30. But Mr. Paul has surpassed the best day of Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, who raised $3.14 million on Jan. 8.

ThisNovember5th.com includes video clips and the text of a speech by Mr. Paul, a 10-term Texas congressman. In it, Mr. Paul declares, “The true patriot challenges the state when the state embarks on enhancing its power at the expense of the individual.”

Mr. Paul has stood out from the Republican field for his opposition to the war in Iraq. In the speech he argues that the fight against terrorism is threatening American democracy.

“The American Republic is in remnant status,” he says. “The stage is set for our country eventually devolving into military dictatorship, and few seem to care.”

Mr. Benton clarified that Mr. Paul did not support blowing up government buildings. “He wants to demolish things like the Department of Education,” Mr. Benton said, “but we can do that very peacefully, in a constructive manner.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/us/politics/06paul.html?em&ex=1194498000&en=c2e13a38eb49d8be&ei=50 87%0A
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject:
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Paul: Loss of freedom costly
Texan brings message to UNH students

By Michael Mccord
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November 10, 2007 6:00 AM

DURHAM — During an appearance at the University of New Hampshire Friday, Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul struck a chord with Alex Machajewski of Hampstead.

"I really support most of his views," said Machajewski, an 18-year-old freshman who will cast his first New Hampshire Primary vote for Paul. "Freedom is really important."

Machajewski is part of a growing movement for the Texas congressman whose supporters created national headlines earlier in the week when they raised more than $4 million through an Internet fund-raising appeal not started by the campaign.

While flyers outside the room where he spoke portrayed the Paul movement as a "Revolution," the 74-year-old Paul, a medical doctor, spoke to more than 350 UNH students and local residents. He shared his libertarian brand of conservative politics and garnered cheer after cheer for his opposition to a draft, the war in Iraq and the American "empire," for his support to legalize marijuana, and his desire to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and most current functions of the federal government.

"We're losing our prosperity because we're losing our freedom," said Paul, who believes the United States should return to the gold standard to bolster the national currency and better stabilize the economy. "My program is based on common sense blended with the Constitution."

He said the country should replace what he called the "welfare/warfare/socialist system" with "our original revolution" from the 18th Century to restore freedom and liberty.

Paul, the only Republican candidate who voted authorizing the war in 2002 and has continued to oppose it as unconstitutional, said the war in Iraq was emblematic of the system's corruption. "The system is wrong. It's not a management problem," he said. "The principle is wrong."

Paul called former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, one of his Republican rivals, an "honest person who was very militant" and was "willing to go to war with Iran" and wanted to put "more troops in Iraq."

The crowd was less enthusiastic when he said that he didn't know if global warming was a fact and added the free market and not the federal government should find solutions to solve such problems if they exist.

"He has a very interesting thought process," said Eva Jacobson, a UNH sophomore from Connecticut. "I came open-minded, but I was very frustrated by some of his answers" on issues such as Darfur and Israel. Paul has called for a massive American government divestment from all countries in the world.

During a press briefing after the appearance, Paul said that college-age supporters were growing and becoming more responsive to his message. Despite his growing popularity nationally, Paul, who plans to spend more time in the state in the final weeks of the primary campaign, said he did not intend to run as a third party candidate if he did not win the Republican nomination.
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"Deficits mean future tax increases, pure and simple. Deficit spending should be viewed as a tax on future generations, and politicians who create deficits should be exposed as tax hikers."
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Ron Paul tells CNN tyranny is a throwback
Larry Fester
Published 11/11/2007 - 12:35 p.m. EST
After speaking to a group of almost 5,000 supporters in the streets of Philadelphia outside Independence Hall, Republican Presidential candidate, Ron Paul, was interviewed by CNN.

Paul considered by many to be the first Civil Rights leader of the 21st century, was asked by the CNN host yesterday if his campaign was a throwback, Paul eloquently said:

“It’s actually the opposite of being a throwback, the government is a throwback, the current government we have, our current trends is a throwback to tyranny, where government runs things and individual freedom is minimized, America was all based on maximizing the freedom of the individual and we’ve lost that, but that’s a new idea.

Tyranny has been around for thousands of years and we have something new and wonderful and we just want to restore that trend that we were given a couple hundred years ago, but in terms of history it is a very, very, new idea.”

Ron Paul voted against the Patriot Act because it was in his view an illegal and un Constitutional attack on the Bill of Rights.

Paul also emphasized the tremendous grassroots support for his campaign across America, “Everything points to the fact that there are a lot of people that believe in freedom and limited government.”

Ron Paul may also have emerged as the first candidate of either party to effectively answer questions about the U.S. economy. When asked if he could answers questions about the economy as strongly as he has about the war Paul said:

“They’re inter connected, you can’t deal with the economy without dealing with the foreign policy because the spending overseas is what’s bankrupting the country and why the dollar is weak and all empires have ended when they’ve spread themselves too thinly around the world and they can’t afford it.”

Paul is the only Republican running for president that voted against the war in Iraq.

In his speech prior to the interview, Paul told close to 5,000 supporters that the U.S. could not afford the cost of ‘maintaining empire’. He also criticized the Federal Reserve’s ability ‘to create money out of thin air”.  

Ron Paul also told the crowd that the dollar is eroding and that true inflation was being hidden.  

Paul has said before that he thinks the U.S. is in the beginning stages of a recession that was partly caused by the housing collapse, which he blames the Federal Reserve for. Visit the USA Daily Forum to discuss this and other issues.

http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=159139
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Please take this in the humorous way in which I honestly intend it.  I learned at a very early age to try to look for the lighter side of everything.  It makes for a much happier life.  OldSchool, exactly how OLD are you?  Are you, like me, one of those baby boomers?  Although I did not participate in it, I did hear a lot about the pot smoking hippies yelling, “Make love, not war!”  I chuckled when I read this part.  

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He shared his libertarian brand of conservative politics and garnered cheer after cheer for his opposition to a draft, the war in Iraq and the American "empire," for his support to legalize marijuana,


Now, I see why Ron Paul has such a great financial backing.  Donating to his campaign could be a lot cheaper than fines and court cost for drug offences.  lol

Mike Huckabee’s sense of humor and his way of thinking being similar to mine could be another reason I like him.  This is his comment at the Oct. 21st Republican debate.

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And we've got a situation with 10,000 baby boomers a day signing up for Social Security, going into the Medicare system. And I just want to remind everybody when all the old hippies find out that they get free drugs, just wait until what that's going to cost out there.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/us/politics/21debate-transcript.html?pagewanted=9&_r=1&ref=politic s
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Please take this in the humorous way in which I honestly intend it.  I learned at a very early age to try to look for the lighter side of everything.  It makes for a much happier life.  OldSchool, exactly how OLD are you?  Are you, like me, one of those baby boomers?  Although I did not participate in it, I did hear a lot about the pot smoking hippies yelling, “Make love, not war!”  I chuckled when I read this part.  

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He shared his libertarian brand of conservative politics and garnered cheer after cheer for his opposition to a draft, the war in Iraq and the American "empire," for his support to legalize marijuana,


Now, I see why Ron Paul has such a great financial backing.  Donating to his campaign could be a lot cheaper than fines and court cost for drug offences.  lol

Mike Huckabee’s sense of humor and his way of thinking being similar to mine could be another reason I like him.  This is his comment at the Oct. 21st Republican debate.

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And we've got a situation with 10,000 baby boomers a day signing up for Social Security, going into the Medicare system. And I just want to remind everybody when all the old hippies find out that they get free drugs, just wait until what that's going to cost out there.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/us/politics/21debate-transcript.html?pagewanted=9&_r=1&ref=politic s


sorry granny i don't find that funny at all.
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