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Funguy Super Member User is Offline

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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: Rumor - job cuts |
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New rumor that Chrysler Belvidere will be cutting jobs as we end the year. I suppose this year won't be any different than any other year we have seen job cuts as we go into a new year. So if your job is being time studied keep this in mind, never "double up". Remember the job they add to may be yours or worse yet, the job they eliminate may be yours.  |
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BrianLaws Site Admin User is Offline

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Location: Local 1268 BAP Grp 9 Team 5
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I have heard 12 jobs in Material are being looked at being cut, 4 on each shift.
I also heard from a group leader that their hours have been cut down to 10 hours. Anything over 10 is not paid. |
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uaw4us2 Valued Member User is Offline

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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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There are definately a lot of layoffs on the way (immediately and in the future).
We have been WAY over staffed since the launch of first shift. Those numbers were then compounded by the addition of second and third shifts.
Each department has what the plant is calling "nonstandard" jobs they want to eliminate. These are jobs that are necessary, but not initially planned for - such as extra fitters. But right now, numericaly speaking, the cuts are coming from the "floaters." These are the people that are over and above the sum of total number of: planned jobs, nonstandard jobs, current people on vacation, current people on medical or any other type of leave.
The comment earlier about doubling up is very true. Do your job and only your job. If directed to do anything over and above that, call for your Steward but continue to work at the normal pace of a normal person (per contract). |
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georgesparents Super Member User is Offline

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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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I also heard about the layoffs tonight at work. I had heard that Saturday 60 people Will be let go, and 60 every week after that for the next several weeks. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: |
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I talked to a couple of people in Chassis who were told that they were being laid off. Both were ETE's with service dates of 6/26/2006. |
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Tony Valued Member User is Offline
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Location: 2nd Shift Steward Chassis Grp 8,11,12 & 9190
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, layoffs are a part of this business and will never end. To add a little about doing your job, work in your 20ft window, as much as we like to, don't build up ahead on your parts if your not suppose to.
When a time study is being done, all of these things will hurt you. Yes they preach the team concept, but when cutting jobs they don't look at whats good for the team So helping each other out can also hurt you when the wrong people see it. |
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BrianLaws Site Admin User is Offline

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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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The Register Star, like always is quick to print any news they receive about us.
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| DaimlerChrysler is laying off about 80 of the two-year contract workers from the third shift of its Belvidere assembly plant, workers are reporting. |
I work 3rd shift and I know for a fact that there are ETE's from 2nd too being let go not just 3rd shift. Not all of those jobs are being cut, just the ETE's employee's filling them correct? Transfers from NY will fill most of those jobs cut right?
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According to third-shift worker James Doser and verified by other workers, DaimlerChrysler already is adjusting the work force in Belvidere. The 56-year-old UAW member who started at the plant in April as a temporary employee said Local 1268 representatives informed workers Friday morning DaimlerChrysler intends to lay off 80 of the temporary workers.
“Basically, what they’re doing is they’re going to fire anybody that they possibly have anything on — fire them and lay the rest off,” Doser said. |
What is the attendance policy for the ETE's on how many days they can miss?
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The Rockford Register Star Online
http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060916/BUSINESS11/109160063 |
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Funguy Super Member User is Offline

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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: Buyout? |
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With all the talk of losing money (1.5 billion dollars for the third quarter) will we see the type of buyout plan that G.M. and Ford are involved in? It seems funny that right after the UAW refuses to make concessions in health care for DC then suddenly we end a long running profit streak and start huge losses again.
I have no fact to back this up, it is my opinion, and that is why it is in the Rumor section.....................Funguy |
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JPaint Super Member User is Offline

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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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I also find it ironic that all these job cuts are coming at the end of the quarter, when big losses were reported. Coincidence? As far as the "attendance policy" for ETEs, the way I understand it is, don't miss a day and you won't get fired. |
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georgesparents Super Member User is Offline

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I was under the assumption that after our 90 days are in we go by Chryslers attendance policy. It was in some of our starting papers, and on the dashboard. |
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JPaint Super Member User is Offline

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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's probably true, but just to be safe I'd say just be there every day. Regardless, it seems the terminations are being determined by the lasy 4 digits of you SSN, so your attendance record apparently doesn't factor into the equation. We had a really great team member get laid off with a near perfect record, he was fully trained, and did great work. One team down the line is a person who has missed 12 days, is not fully trained, and has actually told people she wants to be laid off. Go figure. |
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BrianLaws Site Admin User is Offline

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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Was the ETE your talking about that got fired ready to get their time in and qualify for the company benefits promised to them? Maybe hired in order of their last 4?
If so, that's the same dirty trick the company played on part-time/full-time people back when I was hired in. For a period of time, it was easy to find people that got 89 days in and then let go to be replaced by a newbie.  |
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JPaint Super Member User is Offline

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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: |
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No, the last 4 digits of his SSN began with a 9, so he was at the top (or bottom) of the list. That's all they're going by at this point. The last 4 digits of your SSN. It's pretty lame if you ask me. Like I said, there are people (ETEs!) that have really poor attendance and job performance records that are being kept on simply because their SSN is lower. At the meeting Sunday, Littlejohn said that the terminations (and they are terminations, NOT layoffs. These people will NOT be brought back.) happened so quickly in response to DCX earnings statements, that the Union had no time to react by checking peoples' records, and recommending people for termination. That's really unfortunate for the 70 or 80 people who lost their jobs, many of whom were valuable team members and valuable employees. Pardon me for my cynicism, but it's been a rough 3 days. |
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Tony Valued Member User is Offline
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Well, when a mass layoff / termination like this happens they always go by your hire/seniority date and the last 4 of your SS#.The last 4 is for tiebreakers. Yes, there was not enough time to figure out who really needs to go but they did it just like they have done so in the past.
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uaw4us2 Valued Member User is Offline

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Layoff by seniority / last 4....
this is simply the system used. it's fair to the extent that it's a uniform system that everyone knows - it's transparent. it takes favoritism out of the game and provides a straight forward means by which to handle things like are occuring now.
the problem in this separation, however, is that management did not do their jobs - big surprize to anyone?
a probationary period is just that - PROBATIONARY. management's responsibility during this time is to evaluate and assess new employees to get rid of the bad and keep the good. they had 90 days to do that. after that, thanks to the UAW, to layoff or terminate employees, seniority must be the criteria - i'll say it again - this takes the arbitrariness and favoritism out of the equasion.
management didn't do what they were supposed to do and good, hard working people paid the price. |
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