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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject:
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amen granny i think i see the light i want the united states to go on killing baby's in iraq with depleted uranium and our solders too.

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this dam kid will never grow up to stop gods word or come to america to spreed jihad. your right granny lets nuke them all so they glow green that ways they are easier to kill because they glow in the dark. you know granny i think being pro life for american baby's only is a  great idea.

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Wisdom from Adolph Coors IV...

http://getradicalfaith.com/TrueSuccess02.mp3


I listened to most of this before interruptions caused me to have to quit.  I enjoyed what I heard so far.  i agree with him that material things are temporary and we need to focus on our families and our relationship with God.  I believe if one puts Christ first and the family works together they could still reach the American Dream.  I don't know Ken Hendricks personally and have no clue about his relationship with God.  But, from everything I have read about his business adventures; they are family projects.
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Hi Granny,

Thanks for explaining about that. I like hearing all the different views out there.
The best Union is one where we debate our ideas about the larger future, and at the same time we can come together and fight for the basic wages and conditions we need.
I've read a lot of your pro-Union posts here, and I'm proud to be fighting that same cause with you.  
If we are able to take back our Union then all of our futures will be a lot better regardless!

solidarity,
Larry140


Hi Larry,
You might enjoy this video that was titled "Huckabee and Unions Sitting in a Tree"  It is only about 1 minute and 6 seconds long.
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will god forgive you for this?


I am thankful our forefathers had the courage to fight for what they believed was right.  I am also thankful we have a military willing to protect our country and the freedoms we have.  American and coalition forces stopped Saddam Hussein and his sons murdering of Iraq women and children.  

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A mass grave being excavated in a north Iraqi village has yielded evidence that Iraqi forces executed women and children under Saddam Hussein.  US-led investigators have located nine trenches in Hatra containing hundreds of bodies believed to be Kurds killed during the repression of the 1980s…Mr Kehoe said that work to uncover graves around Iraq, where about 300,000 people are thought to have been killed during Saddam Hussein's regime, was slow as experienced European investigators were not taking part.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3738368.stm

I base most of my opinions on what I see or read in the news and how it relates to the Bible.  The Bible is clear on the death penalty for certain offences.  It also has many passages dealing with war.  In some cases God told warriors to save the women and children and other times told them to destroy all.  As I noted on page 4 at http://www.freepowerboards.com/uaw1268/uaw1268-about377-45.html I agree with Ron Paul that Congress should have done their job and voted as to whether or not to declare war against Iraq.   But, they did vote to attack.  Some people seem to forget Hussein had WMDs and used them against both Iran and Iraq citizens.  Friends of our family served in Iraq.  My nephew-in-law is on his way there, if he hasn't already arrived.  I watch FOXNEWS a lot and spend much time in prayer for our troops.  I saw when gas masks were found.  I also saw when canisters suspected of containing chemicals capable to be used for WMDs were found.  Therefore, I believe the report that was declassified in June of 2006.   It explained “classified information” was the reason nothing was ever mentioned about the canisters I had seen with my own eyes.  


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"We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.  Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."…"This says weapons have been discovered, more weapons exist and they state that Iraq was not a WMD-free zone, that there are continuing threats from the materials that are or may still be in Iraq," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html

I know the main stream media wants to believe the Bush hating left.  They had trouble getting liberals elected when our President had the support of the American citizens.  They would rather divide our country than have Republicans in office.   I agree with Mike Huckabee when he said,  


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whether or not we should have gone to Iraq is a discussion that historians can have, but we’re there. We bought it because we broke it. We’ve got a responsibility to the honor of this country and to the honor of every man and woman who has served in Iraq and ever served in our military to not leave them with anything less than the honor that they deserve…Congressman, we are one nation. We can’t be divided. We have to be one nation under God. That means if we make a mistake, we make it as a single country, the United States of America, not the divided states of America.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/us/politics/06text.html?pagewanted=11&_r=2
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject:
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First, to Granny.  Now, you know I love ya like a sister.  So, as a brother, I feel compelled to correct you on a matter that you said in a previous post.  You said to Old School that Congress voted to ok the war with Iraq.  Actually, they did not.

What they voted on was to transfer their authority to declare the war to the President, or more pointedly, to the Executive Branch.  Congress NEVER declared the war, as prescribed by Article 1 Section 8; and they did not even vote to approve the action by the President.  They only voted to give the President the power to declare it.  THAT in itself is a MAJOR violation of the US Constitution, in that Congress cannot absolve its responsibility unless they amend the Constitution with a two-thirds majority vote.

According to Madison vs Marsbury (1803), the US Supreme Court said that ANY law that is repugnant to the US Constitution has no weight in Law, is void, therefore, requires no obedience.  Everything about this war is illegal, not to mention morally reprehensible.

Second, I want to point out that not only have we lost over 3000 of our own troops, but we have been instrumental in killing over 500,000 infants and a total of over 800,000 CIVILIANS in Iraq.  Now, I do not know about you folks, but this is reaching genocidal proportions.  

We have allowed the U.S. Money Powers to imposed their empire-building southsides to rob and pillage third world countries for the last 60 years.  We must ask ourselves these two very important questions:

1.  At what point do We the People become culpable for allowing these Elitist bozos to create wars and kill untold millions of people just so they can expand their Empire?

2.  How long will be sit and allow these atrocities continue in the name of "capitalism," in the name of "security," and even in the name of "Freedom?"

Ron Paul is the only viable candidate to meet these issues head on.  Huckebee has already sold out to the Money Powers with his membership into the Council of Foreign Relations.  Why do you think he is even given any attention by mainstream media?  It certainly has not been because of the money he has raised.  It is because he is already succumbing to the pressures of the Money Powers.  Not only will this man sellout his nation, he will sellout his own religion.  Any man of God who sees 500,000 babies plus 800,000 civilians killed for nothing more than a bunch of bankers and politicians seizing control of oil, is a hypocrite by every sense of the word.

One more thing and I will shut up.  Someone said that they will not presume to tell anyone how to vote.  I can only say that anyone like that must not feel any real conviction for who they DO support.  Now, not only will I encourage people to vote who I believe is the best candidate, I will argue till I am blue in the face that I am right in whom I have chosen.  WHY?  

Because I work my southside off to do the research to be RIGHT.  Now, that does not make me perfect, but when I KNOW I am right, I will do everything in my power to persuade, debate, and even argue my position in hopes that I may persuade others to my way of thinking.  My God, let us be honest here:  Is that not the objective of even participating in these forums?

Arrow>>>----being wrong--->

GO RON PAUL!  The ONLY man constitutionally fit to be President!
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject:
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Huckebee has already sold out to the Money Powers with his membership into the Council of Foreign Relations.


I also believe in researching to see who best agrees with my views.  So, will someone PLEASE show me where you are getting your information from??? I have been searching to see if your statement is true.  I am waiting for a reply from the Huckabee campaign office.  I am reposting something I posted on page 3 of this topic.

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I researched a little on CFR ... and I found that there are five Republican candidates are not CFR members: Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul. I'm not sure to make of the Rick Warren comment. Although I disagree with some of his methods, The Purpose Driven Church has a lot of valuable information and insight. It's a bit of a reach to say that because Huckabee likes Warren's perspective on growing a church that he also agrees with everything else Warren has to say.  Huckabee has clearly come out against open borders between US and Canada, and some other concerns related to the CFR.  

http://hillings.blogspot.com/2007/09/its-official-we-are-endorsing-huckabee.html  

I will continue to research, but, as for now; Mike Huckabee still seems to share more of my views.  Maybe Brian is right.  

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Huckebee has already sold out to the Money Powers with his membership into the Council of Foreign Relations.


I also believe in researching to see who best agrees with my views.  So, will someone PLEASE show me where you are getting your information from??? I have been searching to see if your statement is true.  I am waiting for a reply from the Huckabee campaign office.  I am reposting something I posted on page 3 of this topic.

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I researched a little on CFR ... and I found that there are five Republican candidates are not CFR members: Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul. I'm not sure to make of the Rick Warren comment. Although I disagree with some of his methods, The Purpose Driven Church has a lot of valuable information and insight. It's a bit of a reach to say that because Huckabee likes Warren's perspective on growing a church that he also agrees with everything else Warren has to say.  Huckabee has clearly come out against open borders between US and Canada, and some other concerns related to the CFR.  

http://hillings.blogspot.com/2007/09/its-official-we-are-endorsing-huckabee.html  

I will continue to research, but, as for now; Mike Huckabee still seems to share more of my views.  Maybe Brian is right.  

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mike huckabee is a member council on foreign relations. if mike huckabee told you his real agenda your view of him would be much different.
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mike huckabee is a member council on foreign relations. if mike huckabee told you his real agenda your view of him would be much different.


Once again I ask where you found your information Question   Either put up or shut up Mad
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mike huckabee is a member council on foreign relations. if mike huckabee told you his real agenda your view of him would be much different.


Once again I ask where you found your information Question   Either put up or shut up Mad


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I had visited both the links you posted several days ago.  They still did not answer my question.  Acts 17:11b “…they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”  I apply this verse to more than just the scriptures.  The Bible says, “All men are liars.”  We can’t just believe what we are told.  We have to search for ourselves to see “whether those things were so.”  I have done a lot of searching on this subject.  Quite a few of those that falsely claim Huckabee to be a member of the CFR appear to be Ron Paul supporters.  I guess the only way some of them know how to debate is to sling dirt.  There is a lot of truth to the saying, “He who slings dirt loses ground.”    Speaking somewhere does not necessarily mean one is a member.  Many preachers have spoken to groups they do not agree with; oftentimes hoping to convert a few listeners.  If they would speak only to those that believe the same as they do they are “Preaching to the choir.”  

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Nearly every person elected as president of the United States since then – and nearly every opponent – has belonged to a secretive, globalism-oriented organization known as the Council on Foreign Relations.  Some presidents and their challengers have belonged to additional clubs of internationalists – the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission. Running mates, too, more often than not have had ties to the groups…All these groups operate in considerable secrecy, away from the scrutiny of the American public…Mike Huckabee, though not a member, spoke to the CFR in September.


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I had visited both the links you posted several days ago.  They still did not answer my question.  Acts 17:11b “…they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”  I apply this verse to more than just the scriptures.  The Bible says, “All men are liars.”  We can’t just believe what we are told.  We have to search for ourselves to see “whether those things were so.”  I have done a lot of searching on this subject.  Quite a few of those that falsely claim Huckabee to be a member of the CFR appear to be Ron Paul supporters.  I guess the only way some of them know how to debate is to sling dirt.  There is a lot of truth to the saying, “He who slings dirt loses ground.”    Speaking somewhere does not necessarily mean one is a member.  Many preachers have spoken to groups they do not agree with; oftentimes hoping to convert a few listeners.  If they would speak only to those that believe the same as they do they are “Preaching to the choir.”  

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Nearly every person elected as president of the United States since then – and nearly every opponent – has belonged to a secretive, globalism-oriented organization known as the Council on Foreign Relations.  Some presidents and their challengers have belonged to additional clubs of internationalists – the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission. Running mates, too, more often than not have had ties to the groups…All these groups operate in considerable secrecy, away from the scrutiny of the American public…Mike Huckabee, though not a member, spoke to the CFR in September.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58425


sorry i see a bio and a speech on the cfr home page for huckabee and he has even given a speech to the members of the cfr. if huckabee does not want to be known as a cfr member maybe he should ask them to take his info off their page. no dirt flinging here just do not trust anyone that has any thing to do with the cfr.
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Bible prophecy indicates that the globalists will prevail for a time, then He who made the globe will prevail forever!
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