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“Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul said today that he could see no possible reason to ever launch military action or initiate a war, vowing instead to battle efforts he said are undermining the individual liberties of people in America…"The thought that the Iranians could pose an imminent attack on the United States is preposterous," he said Tuesday night. "There's no way. This is just war propaganda, continued war propaganda, preparing this nation to go to war and spread this war not only in Iraq, but into Iran, unconstitutionally. It is a road to disaster for us as a nation."
How can anyone call what Muslims have been saying and doing for decades propaganda? Muslim extremist have declared war against Americans on numerous occasions. Muslim extremist not only declared war but also attacked Americans several times before 9/11. Many of those attacks were never retaliated because of the wusses we have in Congress and some of our previous Presidents. Be sure to vote for a candidate with enough backbone to protect the safety of our families and our freedoms.
granny i have been dem all my life probably 4 th generation at that. but im beginning to think none of them running or ever will be worth a crap. we are watching the usa and all the unions and it's people fall and fall fast. heck it's to the point we as union members can't even trust our union. and we can't even fight and win against them. so how in the world can we fight the Government when they make the rules. even if you get a president in that might fight for the working people there is another couple of hundred other congress men women senators etc etc that are crooked . i hate to see the world in another 20 or 30 years. within 15 to 20 years there will be only 2 classes the very rich and the very poor. see i don't care one bit for bush and many republicans at all but i can give bush one thing he don't care what anyone else wants he is going to do it any way but he has done nothing correct for the USA in 8 years. you could get the best person in office for 20 years and they could not fix what bush has done to us in 8 years. i for one was to mean and wild never did want kids because life was ruff for me and i saw all the bad things on the streets the crooked government people etc etc. in my teens and 20s i didn't care if i died i did not care for nothing not even life mine or others. but when i started getting close to 30 i got scared and didn't want to die a lonely old man with no one to love me so i wanted to change. but after having 2 boys 10 and 6 and a beautiful wife and seeing now how even worse it is now than it was back 20 to 25 years ago i just wonder if i did the correct thing to the kids i have now. see i love my kids to death and would not trade them for nothing. but i also don't want them to half to live in poverty or go to war over a politician wanting more money or oil over it. we as a whole as americans need to care for the USA and not worry about what is going on in other countries . and i have served in the us army and love my country and it's people but i will not support a president or his people when they stage war on lies. but i do support the people having to fight it . james scott and HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL.
“Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul said today that he could see no possible reason to ever launch military action or initiate a war, vowing instead to battle efforts he said are undermining the individual liberties of people in America…"The thought that the Iranians could pose an imminent attack on the United States is preposterous," he said Tuesday night. "There's no way. This is just war propaganda, continued war propaganda, preparing this nation to go to war and spread this war not only in Iraq, but into Iran, unconstitutionally. It is a road to disaster for us as a nation."
How can anyone call what Muslims have been saying and doing for decades propaganda? Muslim extremist have declared war against Americans on numerous occasions. Muslim extremist not only declared war but also attacked Americans several times before 9/11. Many of those attacks were never retaliated because of the wusses we have in Congress and some of our previous Presidents. Be sure to vote for a candidate with enough backbone to protect the safety of our families and our freedoms.
granny you need to look up and see what false flag operation is.
granny you need to look up and see what false flag operation is
So, what you are saying is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is flying a false flag
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“On the eve of his trip to New York City, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood before a banner blaring "Death to America," showed off his military might and declared his extremist regime will not bow to Western pressure. "Those who think, that by using such decayed tools as psychological warfare and economic sanctions, they can stop the Iranian nation's progress are making a mistake," Ahmadinejad said yesterday outside of Tehran.”
Was bin Laden flying a false flag when he said, “What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you? (1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.” And there really is no plan for Islamic extremist to “take over” America
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A Washington, D.C., imam states explicitly on the website for his organization that he is part of a movement working toward replacement of the U.S. government with "the Islamic State of North America" by 2050.
With branches in Oakland, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sacramento and Philadelphia, the group As-Sabiqun – or the Vanguard – is under the leadership of Abdul Alim Musa in the nation's capital.
Musa's declaration of his intention to help lead a takeover of America was highlighted by noted Islam observer Robert Spencer on his website Jihad Watch.
granny you need to look up and see what false flag operation is
So, what you are saying is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is flying a false flag
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“On the eve of his trip to New York City, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood before a banner blaring "Death to America," showed off his military might and declared his extremist regime will not bow to Western pressure. "Those who think, that by using such decayed tools as psychological warfare and economic sanctions, they can stop the Iranian nation's progress are making a mistake," Ahmadinejad said yesterday outside of Tehran.”
Was bin Laden flying a false flag when he said, “What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you? (1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.” And there really is no plan for Islamic extremist to “take over” America
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A Washington, D.C., imam states explicitly on the website for his organization that he is part of a movement working toward replacement of the U.S. government with "the Islamic State of North America" by 2050.
With branches in Oakland, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sacramento and Philadelphia, the group As-Sabiqun – or the Vanguard – is under the leadership of Abdul Alim Musa in the nation's capital.
Musa's declaration of his intention to help lead a takeover of America was highlighted by noted Islam observer Robert Spencer on his website Jihad Watch.
You need to stay away from the liberal left blame the U.S. for everything propaganda; get your head out of the sand, and open your eyes
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time
sorry granny but you make me fear my freedoms more than osama bin laden ever could.
granny you need to look up and see what false flag operation is
So, what you are saying is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is flying a false flag
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“On the eve of his trip to New York City, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood before a banner blaring "Death to America," showed off his military might and declared his extremist regime will not bow to Western pressure. "Those who think, that by using such decayed tools as psychological warfare and economic sanctions, they can stop the Iranian nation's progress are making a mistake," Ahmadinejad said yesterday outside of Tehran.”
Was bin Laden flying a false flag when he said, “What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you? (1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.” And there really is no plan for Islamic extremist to “take over” America
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A Washington, D.C., imam states explicitly on the website for his organization that he is part of a movement working toward replacement of the U.S. government with "the Islamic State of North America" by 2050.
With branches in Oakland, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sacramento and Philadelphia, the group As-Sabiqun – or the Vanguard – is under the leadership of Abdul Alim Musa in the nation's capital.
Musa's declaration of his intention to help lead a takeover of America was highlighted by noted Islam observer Robert Spencer on his website Jihad Watch.
You need to stay away from the liberal left blame the U.S. for everything propaganda; get your head out of the sand, and open your eyes
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time
sorry granny but you make me fear for my freedoms more than osama bin laden ever could.
sorry granny but you make me fear for my freedoms more than osama bin laden ever could.
I never thought anyone would ever admit to fearing a short, fat, partially disabled Grandmother
i fear what your vote could mean to america if mike huckabee wins. your the one who lives in fear of ghad and islam not me. we have already seen what you people will give away because of false fear. you support an illegal war and that makes me fear that you will give away even more of the constitution because of your fear. i fear you because of what your doing to our country with your fear.
ever seen the simpson's on tv where homer says doh. if so it's kinda like i can't believe you just did that or said that. hehehe
Sounds like doh is a synonym of the word duh my children use. I had a little boy in my Sunday School class about 20? years ago that brought his Bart doll to SS. When I asked him why he brought it he told me it was because Bart was REALLY naughty and needed to learn about Jesus I watched it to see what he was talking about. He was right. I never watched it since.
Thanks for filling enlightening me
sorry granny but you make me fear for my freedoms more than osama bin laden ever could.
I never thought anyone would ever admit to fearing a short, fat, partially disabled Grandmother
i fear what your vote could mean to america if mike huckabee wins. your the one who lives in fear of ghad and islam not me. we have already seen what you people will give away because of false fear. you support an illegal war and that makes me fear that you will give away even more of the constitution because of your fear. i fear you because of what your doing to our country with your fear.
So, if someone else declares war against America we have to wait for wusses in Congress to vote as to whether or not we are willing to defend our country? Since you’ve already implied we get to choose which parts of the Constitution we get to disagree with; that is the part of the Constitution I choose to disagree with. Whether we like it or not, war was declared against us. It just took decades before some Americans were willing to take it seriously. Here are some attacks you may have forgotten about:
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America's war on terrorism did not begin in September 2001. It began in November 1979. That was shortly after Ayatollah Khomeini had seized power in Iran, riding the slogan "Death to America" - and sure enough, the attacks on Americans soon began. In November 1979, a militant Islamic mob took over the U.S. embassy in Tehran, the Iranian capital, and held 52 Americans hostage for the next 444 days. The rescue team sent to free those hostages in April 1980 suffered eight fatalities, making them the first of militant Islam's many American casualties. Others included:
• April 1983: 63 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut.
• October 1983: 241 dead at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut.
• December 1983: five dead at the U.S. embassy in Kuwait.
• January 1984: the president of the American University of Beirut killed.
• April 1984: 18 dead near a U.S. airbase in Spain.
• September 1984: 16 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut (again).
• December 1984: Two dead on a plane hijacked to Tehran.
• June 1985: One dead on a plane hijacked to Beirut.
After a let-up, the attacks then restarted: Five and 19 dead in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996, 224 dead at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998 and 17 dead on the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000.
Simultaneously, the murderous assault of militant Islam also took place on U.S. soil:
• July 1980: an Iranian dissident killed in the Washington, D.C. area.
• August 1983: a leader of the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam killed in Canton, Mich.
• August 1984: three Indians killed in a suburb of Tacoma, Wash.
• September 1986: a doctor killed in Augusta, Ga.
• January 1990: an Egyptian freethinker killed in Tucson, Ariz.
• November 1990: a Jewish leader killed in New York.
• February 1991: an Egyptian Islamist killed in New York.
• January 1993: two CIA staff killed outside agency headquarters in Langley, Va.
• February 1993: Six people killed at the World Trade Center.
• March 1994: an Orthodox Jewish boy killed on the Brooklyn Bridge.
• February 1997: a Danish tourist killed on the Empire State building.
• October 1999: 217 passengers killed on an EgyptAir flight near New York City.
In all, 800 persons lost their lives in the course of attacks by militant Islam on Americans before September 2001 - more than killed by any other enemy since the Vietnam War. (Further, this listing does not include the dozens more Americans in Israel killed by militant Islamic terrorists.) And yet, these murders hardly registered. Only with the events of a year ago did Americans finally realize that "Death to America" truly is the battle cry of this era's most dangerous foe, militant Islam. In retrospect, the mistake began when Iranians assaulted the U.S. embassy in Tehran and met with no resistance.
So, if someone else declares war against America we have to wait for wusses in Congress to vote as to whether or not we are willing to defend our country?
sorry my bad granny it was oct 9th debate.
yes its constitutional law granny.
i tryed to find the video with all 3 of them on it but i could only find the video of paul and romney.
here is what huckabee said
Governor Huckabee, same question. Do you need Congress to approve such an action?
HUCKABEE: A president has to whatever is necessary to protect the American people. If we think Iran is building nuclear capacity that could be used against us in any way, including selling some of the nuclear capacity to some other terrorist group, then, yes, we have a right...
MATTHEWS: Without going to Congress?
HUCKABEE: And I would do it in a heartbeat.
MATTHEWS: Without going to Congress?
HUCKABEE: Well, if it's necessary to get it done because it's actionable right now, yes. If you have the time and the luxury of going to Congress, that's always better. But, Chris, the most important single thing is to make sure.
MATTHEWS: And if Congress say no, what do you do?
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: If Congress says no, what do you do, Governor?
HUCKABEE: You do what's best for the American people and you suffer the consequences. But what you don't do is what you never do, is let the American people one day get hit with a nuclear device because you had politics going on in Washington, instead of the protection of the American people first.
to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;—And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
* The Koran (sacred book of Muslims) explicitly sanctions pillaging, holding for ransom, and the rape of captive women as incentive to join in jihad (war on behalf of Islam).
* Mohammed kept one-fifth of all the spoils of war for himself.
* The Koran allows a man to have up to 4 wives at any time. He can divorce a wife by simply saying "I divorce you" 3 times.
* Mohammed had as many as 25 wives. One, Aisha, was 9 years old when the marriage was consummated.
* At least 27 people were murdered on Mohammed's direct orders.
* Mohammed allowed "temporary marriage" for soldiers in the field so they could be with prostitutes
* The Koran assures the right of Muslims to own slaves by purchasing them or as a bounty of war. Mohammed had many slaves and concubines.
* Charitable giving and mercy are commended in Islam, but the beneficiaries are to be Muslims only.
* In Islam, the definitions of "right" and "just" are changeable by "divine decree," allowing the most heinous crimes to be declared "the will of Allah."
* The glories of the Islamic "paradise" are sensual and include sexual relations of men with virgins and young boys.
* As Mohammed progressed from visionary and teacher to warlord and ruler, his style and message became more and more violent and intolerant. His later "revelations" are considered to trump earlier ones. The earlier peaceful and tolerant Suras (recitations) are those quoted to show the West the "peaceful" nature of Islam, but the latter violent and intolerant Suras are those taught as having final authority today among Muslims.
* Islam divides the world into the House of Islam (where Islam rules) and the House of War (where Islam does not rule). The House of Islam is to be permanently at war with the non-Muslim world; though there may be temporary strategic truces (for re-grouping and re-armament), the ultimate goal is global conquest for Allah.
* When Muslims are a minority community, the Koran and Hadith (Islamic tradition) allow them to adopt a peaceful attitude until the are strong and numerous enough to intimidate or overthrow the existing culture and government. Europe is quickly being overtaken by a vastly higher Muslim birthrate.
* Muslim massacres of Hindus in India greatly outnumber those lost in the Holocaust of WWII.
* The persecution of Christians by Muslims has caused the death of millions over the last 13 centuries and continues to this day.
* "The Golden Age of Islam" was parasitic on Christian and Jewish cultures - and ended when the Muslims "killed the hosts."
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I watched it to see what he was talking about. He was right. I never watched it since.
