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The reports I've read about WTC 7 are that it had severe structural damage caused by the collapse of WTC North Tower, and fell about 8 hours or so after the initial Tower's collapse. A more detailed account along these lines is recorded a this link, scroll dow to "collapse."
I would count the collapse of WTC North Tower as very equivalent to the work of a demolition team on WTC 7!
No, I don't see much evidence of editing on Bush's "finger" video. Either he didn't know the camera was rolling (which is GREAT ignorance), or he didn't care (which is sad).
I'm not saying that conspiracies are not real. Obviously history is full of them. I'm saying that not all, maybe not even MOST conspiracies are real - given the emotion people have regarding politics and religion in particular.
Again, if they are true, what are we to do, as indiviuals? Vote? Revolt? If they are false, we propogate a lie to spread them. I think this is why the Scripture tells us to be skeptical of them, and continue in the Lord's work in spite of them. He knows, and He will be the all-knowing Judge in the end. B well brother!
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Willie Nelson: Twin Towers Were Imploded On 9/11
American icon tells Alex Jones Show he questions official story
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, February 4th, 2008
Straight talking American icon Willie Nelson today told a national radio show that he thought the twin towers were imploded like condemned Las Vegas casino buildings, as the country music superstar forcefully voiced his doubts about the official 9/11 story.
Agreeing with host Alex Jones that he questioned the official story, Nelson elaborated, "I saw those towers fall and I've seen an implosion in Las Vegas - there's too much similarities between the two, and I saw a building fall that didn't get hit by nothing," added Nelson, referring to WTC Building 7 which collapsed in the late afternoon of September 11.
"How naive are we - what do they think we'll go for?," asked Nelson, pointing out that his doubts began on the very day of 9/11.
"I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical, I said wait a minute I just saw that last week at the casino in Las Vegas and you see these implosions all the time and the next one fell and I said hell there's another one - and they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it and I can't go along with that," said Nelson.
The former Highwayman, fresh from his appearance at this past weekend's superbowl, questioned why Afghanistan became an immediate target in the aftermath of 9/11 when the official story posited that mostly Saudi Arabians were responsible for the attack.
"When I get hit I like to look around and see who did it before I start swinging at everybody in the room and that's kind of what we were doing," said Nelson, "We get hit over here and then next thing you know we're jumping on everybody in the town - so (if) we got hit from Saudi Arabia, I think we've got some questions that need to be answered from those folks," said Nelson.
In light of his viewpoint, Nelson said that recent revelations concerning the impartiality of the 9/11 Commission and its close links with the White House did not surprise him.
"What does it take for us to realize we're having the wool pulled over our eyes one more time?" he concluded.
Nelson is not the first high-profile public figure to question 9/11. In March 2006, actor Charlie Sheen voiced his doubts and was followed last year by his father Martin Sheen.
Aside from celebrities - professors, scientists and other experts the world over have questioned the inconsistencies in the official story, and the topic was most recently even a subject of serious debate in the Japanese Parliament.
In December, former Italian President Francesco Cossiga told Italy's most respected newspaper, Corriere della Sera, that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
Former German Secretary of Defense Andreas von Bülow also went public in blaming American intelligence for instigating the attack.
Nelson's country music contemporaries The Dixie Chicks were savaged by the establishment when they criticized the Bush administration shortly before the invasion of Iraq. It remains to be seen whether the corporate media will dare take on Nelson for his views or whether they will just try to ignore the story as happened with Martin Sheen.
Even if they choose to ignore Nelson's comments, the power of the alternative media should organize now to get this story out.
The collapse of Building 7 is particularly unusual, and yet the 9/11 Commission never mentions it once in their report. Somehow fire got started in Building 7, which is two blocks away and was never hit by a plane. There was no jet fuel inside to feed the fire. There are photographs that show only small fires on floors 7 and 12 of this 47-story building. And yet at 5:20 in the afternoon it comes collapsing down in exactly the same way as the other buildings.
Now I stress in the same way because they all came straight down into their own footprint for the most part. They collapsed very quickly, within about ten seconds. That's amazing when you think about it, that fire could produce that kind of effect, just like controlled demolition. In fact, on that very night, Dan Rather-viewing the collapse of Building 7-blurted out, "It looked just like one of those controlled demolitions."
Further evidence of Building 7 being brought down by controlled demolition came from Larry Silverstein, the man who had recently taken a lease on the entire complex. In a PBS documentary from September 2002, Silverstein said he told the fire commander that the smartest thing to do was "pull it." Next, he says, they "made that decision to pull" and watched the building collapse. Pull is a term commonly used to describe using explosives to demolish a building. Silverstein allegedly made almost $500 million in profit from the collapse of Building 7.
for all of you 9-11 kooks, you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves, 3000+ of your fellow cictizens were vaporized in an instant and all you can think of is how a secret cabal of americans, orchestrated it? puh-leez, ever hear of occum's razor? All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best. and in this case al-qaeda hit the towers in '93, and couldn't wait to hit them again. you are so afraid to confront the real enemy (islamo-fscists) you have to make one up (the "idiot" Bush). something that is so terrible as 9-11 has to have an equally as grand of a plan, it couldn't be as simple as 19 hijackers using our own planes as missiles and destroying 3 buildings. anyway go to this site and it will explain all about the so-called "truthies".
I didn't see your link provided above say anything about WTC building 7.
i realize debating a kook is pointless because after awhile you can't tell who the kook is.....that being said, go to the bottom of the page and there are a few links to refute this nonsense about steel melting, blah,blah,blah....i have posted the links here
both of these sites refute your kooky wtc 7 innuendos, but i am not rying to convince you, but rather others who may read this and be convinced of your nonsense.
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