I'm sure you've heard of the Brown family who wound up under siege to the feds due to their refusal to be blackmailed by the unconstitutional income tax.
A few weeks ago I went to another state militia website and asked for people to be on alert should we have to mobilize and help the Browns.
One poster, Hawker, wrote this:
"I added up the population of New Hampshire and it's bordering states. I came up with over 9,000,000,000 people. If the militia cannot muster 150 out of 9 million.... there is no militia, and there is no reason to expect any help from states hundreds or even thousands of miles away.
Sorry JW.... that is the reality of the militia in the 21st century.
We couldn't muster a measely 7 the other day.... and that's the reality of the militia in Mississippi..... and the reason I have retired and no longer consider myself a militiaman. I am still and always will be a patriot though......
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Militia Command Staff (retired)"
And now my response:
In 1999 the Militia of Georgia had a mailing list of over 4,000 people, most of whom were in the state of Georgia. After Y2K the overwhelming majority of people left and the militia looked like a ghost town. Here were all the prophets of doom and gloom telling us the world would end at exactly midnight when the year 2000 started. In our defense, as Commanding Officer of the Militia of Georgia I was quoted by the Washington Times in December of 1999 stating that all of that rhetoric was little more than hogwash.
Anyway, after Y2K we went from a mailing list of over 4,000 people down to about 1,600. And then the feds tried to destroy the state militias. They sent their very best to Georgia - even set up a competing militia. Despite the fact that we beat them, most people left the militia due to the "infighting." And actually, there was no "infighting." There was simply an attempt by the feds to wreak havoc on the militia. This is expected. Political propaganda and public relations warfare are just as much a part of any modern battlefield as rifles and nuclear weapons are.
And still, the country NEEDING a militia, we had our ranks reduced by what is expected. I almost feel blessed that we didn't wind up in a real battle with bullets whizzing past our heads, needing those deserters to watch our backs. By about 2002, the militia became mostly an internet militia. And our history on discussion boards went like this:
A former MOG officer set up a militia discussion board and put me in charge. I got the number of posters up to 300 just before this clown sneaks in and locks my account and attempts to take over the militia... Again, expected political warfare.
We started another board almost immediately and ended up with about 200 or so posters. Approximately 15 or so of those were trolls, attempting to make the board a regular bitchfest. And the posting dwindled for a while. Then, when we were getting some of the people back, that site had a server crash. And we wound up here ... and with just under 50 people, I'm wondering where the militia went to.
How come it is we cannot look forward to seeing a militia muster and defend their American brethren when they are attacked? What do you suppose the reason is that patriots are not standing up at a time when they are needed most? Where did the THOUSANDS of men and women go to in the past few years?
Sure, we get attacked by the media and infiltrated by the feds... who would rather spend their time jerking the citizenry around than working to protect us against criminals. But, we have a nation to defend. And this is war. And war isn't easy. I'm not one to lie to you, so unlike the internet militias, I'm used to the smaller numbers of members. But, as you can see, even the internet militia cannot muster more than half a dozen people for a simple meeting. And I'm probably stubborn or stupid, but I refuse to believe that the THOUSANDS of people who were interested in this country's future all quit caring. So, I want to know. What happened to all those people?
I agree 100 %. Sometimes I wonder why I am willing to stick my neck out. It really bothers me that people seem to not care, what happened to all the people after 911 that were up in arms, waving the flag, singing God Bless America? I know they went back to sleep and went back to watching tv, and feeling sorry for a drunk rich girl. We need to be out at every gun show, public event, at work informing people the truth.
We need to be out at every gun show, public event, at work informing people the truth.
Okie44
I agree. I have a theory about why everyone dwindled and left our ranks: complacency, not for a lack of commitment. It's hard to stay interested in the militia when nothing is going on and no war seems imminent. Too much time passed after Waco with no decisive action from either side (at least not that the laymen would notice). As the war began to seem less and less likely, people sank back into their comfort zones. Condemnation of these people, I believe, is not right. They were doing what people do. We fight wars for liberation in hopes that we can sink back into our comfort zones. I have said many times, "When this is through, I want a 50 acre plot of land where I can disappear from the the rest of the world." When our forefathers (not the masons, but the actual folks who fought and died for liberty) won the war, many of them were no longer active in the local militias (or at least once the feeling of being threatened by the Brits subsided). I believe the attitude is, why fight for freedom if I do not intend to use it. This is why those original militias, that fought so valiantly, don't exist today. It's the same reason ours will not exist 200 years from now.
So, it appears that we are at a crossroad. The people WILL become complacent. We cannot change that. So, the question is how do we re-awaken the sleeping giant? The answer is simple: we go back the place where we woke him the first time. We remind him of his hopes and dreams... and then shatter them with the grim reality of our predicament. Let us let the Browns do for us now, what Waco and Ruby Ridge did for us then. The situation in NH is an act of divine intervention. Let us not say, we were defeated here, for we are not. Ed knows he may die. He has accepted that. Ed's sacrifice is a gift to us all. With it, is the key to our revival. Let us take this gift and march onward towards victory.
I say, it's time to start actively recruiting again. I volunteer to work as a recruiter. All I need is the blessing of my superiors and one or two charismatic individuals to help. _________________ Luck is where preperation meets opportunity.
With the above said, this is what I believe must be done to successfully accomplish some form of recruiting goal:
1) We must organize ourselves, again. No longer should we be, what has been so elegantly termed by enforcer, internet militias.
2) Regular meetings. Incentives must be placed on these meetings. The more meetings you make effort to attend, the more merit you shall receive (but not based on meetings alone).
3) Training. Not just skills mind you, but physical training as well. We must be together regularly, with sweat and camaraderie as our fraternal bonds. We must become more than mere couch potato, weekend warriors (or in the case of many of us, once a year warriors). This too shall add to merit.
4) Political presence. We need to spend far more days at the steps of our capital buildings, courthouses, media outlets and so on. Plainclothes are best. Attendance not required, but noted for merit. More specifically, our endorsement of Ron Paul should be top priority at the present time.
5) Recruiters EVERYWHERE. This ought to included the creation of "propaganda" and public relations teams. We need to mass produce literature, DVD's, pamphlets, etcetera.
Plainclothes seems best for PR, but we do need the ability to be noticed when it counts.
6) Lastly, directed at leadership, with no ill will: Leadership must assume responsibility for the overall morale and health of the militia. It appears that the poor morale of leadership is affecting the morale of their militias. I do not have any issues with leadership other than the fact that I feel not enough is being done to improve our situation. This is not leaderships fault, but active solutions must be explored.
It seems that time is running out. I do not wish to be the thorn in anyones side. However, I do know that when the SH'sTF, they will come for me and my family regardless of how organized my militia is. Think not for a minute that you and yours will not share in my fate. We stand a better chance united and organized, than alone and outnumbered. God bless and good luck. _________________ Luck is where preperation meets opportunity.
"Lastly, directed at leadership, with no ill will: Leadership must assume responsibility for the overall morale and health of the militia. It appears that the poor morale of leadership is affecting the morale of their militias. I do not have any issues with leadership other than the fact that I feel not enough is being done to improve our situation. This is not leaderships fault, but active solutions must be explored."
Response: For what has happened since 2003 in the Militia of Georgia, I accept full responsibility. When I was obliged to fight the Lautenberg Amendment, the so - called "Patriot Act," and then attempted coups (all three outside of our governing rules and regulations) I became bitter at those I felt were not supporting the positions the militia had been advocating as their foundation. Honestly, I felt that the people owed it to me and the MOG organization to support it even though we were under fire.
Unfortunately, MANY - perhaps most of the people who join any militia organization, meet a few new friends and / or get their patriot adrenalin rush and move on down the road. Again, it was the fault of the leadership of the Militia of Georgia that many of our people have done a complete 180 degree turn in their commitment to liberty and freedom.
Today, people are committed only to what Uncle Scam has conditioned them to be committed to... even using Uncle Scam's psychological terminology as opposed to what was being taught by patriot organizations a decade ago. But, this is a war and Uncle Scam is a well funded and a tremendously cunning adversary.
A few who know the truth will tell you that they are "laying low" which is code for being too chicken strip to get involved. They falsely believe that as long as they are silent now, the government will forget about them.
Well, while all of that is true, the bottom line is that I've depended upon the internet, just as many others have, and have gotten complacent. A couple of years have gone by; no new knight in shining armor and riding a white horse has saved the movement and so it's time to lick our wounds and get back on our own two feet.
I know that I'm not qualified to lead. But, I've got to man the post until real leaders get the message and understand that some of us have real commitment to stay the course. And so, I will utilize the internet even if the majority have left. It's still a useful tool. But we will go back to work with an independent study program; FTXs, and other activities. Remember that movie where the voice says 'if you build it, they will come." I keep hearing that same voice. If we only have a half dozen to start doing the work, eventually we can build something that will attract more and more people until the really competent leaders are confident that we will watch their back no matter how tough the fight.
My next post will be about where we're starting on this road back.
thank you, enforcer, for not interpreting my comments as inflammatory. i just want the best for all of us and our organizations.
i look forward to your next post. _________________ Luck is where preperation meets opportunity.
Totally agree with everything said on this , i preach everyday about what is coming next,is their gonna be a time where we all can meet up and due some training together as a group,maybe come up with a real plan and not one where we just talk about things on the internet.
I am 19 years old and live in Michigan, I was too young to witness what I am told were the "golden days" of the militia, but I am seeing a big spike in interest in people from ages 18 to mid twenties. At least in my area, people are opening their eyes to whats going on, they dont like it, and they dont want to be unprepared.
Thanks for the heads up from Michigan. You come from the land of what used to be (and we still hope) is the Michigan Wolverines (one of the older militia units in the U.S.)
Mark Koernke (Mark from Michigan) was once among the most popular leaders in the militia. I'm really glad that yet another generation is waking up.
I always have to be a bit skeptical about what people are seeing, as the militia, like all other organizations, is heavily influenced by the controlled news and entertainment media. And today with National ID, National Gun Registration, the so - called "Patriot Act," Martial Law, and attacks on your personal property rights (some of these issues being defended by so - called "conservatives") I feel somewhat defeated on a few days each month.
If we are about to have a real awakening to the threats facing America, namely those mentioned above then we are ready to start the ball rolling once again... and hopefully to a generation that will take up the fight as a serious commitment, not just a passing fad as my generation did.
I have but one answer that applies to almost every situation.......lack of funding.
Another thing I've found is that true patriots that would/could back eachother up are extremely spread out around the country. It would be easier to find a needle in a haystack !
I've been trying for nearly three years or so to find anyone else in Missouri that shares my "militia views". So far, no luck. I also know of someone that's been trying to find people to stick together since before I was born (I'm 35) and he has only one other person besides his spouse.
I guess the intimidation factor after WACO and Ruby Ridge worked quite well for the federales?????? _________________ Don't Tread On ME....lest my fangs wind up in your foot !
any ideas on recuting the younger among us, my son's involved at 14 but thats due to me at this point the best i can hope for is that he carries it on after he gets older. _________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
- Claire Wolfe, 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution
I'll try to respond to Opinionated Missourian and 1moreround in the same post.
I recruited more than a thousand people into the militia when I didn't have a lot of money and fewer ways to find them than we have today. Quite frankly, the internet has made me lazy.
It don't take money or a lot of connections to find people. Finding COMMITTED PEOPLE, is a horse of a different color. Consider, prior to 9 / 11 the Militia of Georgia boasted over 4000 names on its mailing list. Today, less than a hundred people in the militia are visiting this site (or any other board for that matter.)
The trick is, in finding people, each week you add to your personal preparedness level. You buy a few first aid items this week, next week a flea market might turn up some web gear for a fraction of what it costs in the store. Get involved in the training and learn some useful skills.
As you gain competence in any field related to the cause, people will seek you out. Buy some equipment and parkerize metals. They will find you. Start a small survival business and add herbal remedies, etc. as alternative health options. Pick hobbies that lead to self reliance and people will find you.
Those of you who have children should be looking at organizations whose parents home school. You can even begin a few classes on your own to teach families how to store, clean, and shoot a firearm safely. Neighborhood watch programs (even if you have to initiate them) will yield some potential recruits.
There are a lot of people who want to meet you. But, you will have to show you're serious. Begin a home program of preparedness... bug out bags, evacuation and rendezvous plan, a prepared home (smoke alarm, safe, the dog for protection, flashlights, candles, emergency food and water on hand, etc.) Most of this stuff is time... not a big outlay of money. It's not the toys, it's your ability to utilize what you have that will do you the most good and be your best advertising to potential recruits.
im all in fellows. i just bought a house with 2 acres and thats more than enough land to start preparing. i plan on having a small organic farm going in my front yard within a year as well as a back up vw westfalia for the just in case scenario. then there are the guns i need. start with a plan, stick with it, and you are well on your way to being ready. now i can only hope our economy lasts long enough to get where i want to be. any of you guys live near athens? maybe i could learn more from what you have set up.
the idea i have is to have some way to say"hello "on the board as to the region of the state ie. nw,ne centreal se,sw so people could plan small ftx within their own regions for basic land nav, communication, marksmanship, firearm maintnance, the biggest reason i suggest this is to have local rally points if the shtf and then to regroup as a whole. just a thought
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