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geewash76
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I have an idea of starting a Political Action Committee that would fight to elect or persuade polititions to make common sense laws. I was thinking of doing this lately and was wondering if it sounds like a venture that could help. If so I would try to make laws that would force federal agents as well as local municipalities follow guidelines of interrogations and proffers such as video or audio recordings in order to be admissable in court, strict surveillance guidelines(including no warrantless surveillance), and other common sense efforts that would help guarantee civil liberties. I would like to have your feedback on this idea. |
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1moreround
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the idea is a good one but everything you mentioned is already protected under the constitution to start another bureaucracy in the name of rights that will not even get ideas out of comity such as the notion of civil rights already protected under the constitution but how any "reverends"do we have out there that say they are fighting for them but in reality just stirring up pot so to speak what needs to be done in my opinion is to educate the people on constitutional law urge our congress critters to quit making new laws examine the old one's and if it does not meet constitutional muster take it off the books prosecute who wrote them for treason (they did violate their oath to office to protect the constitution)impeach them so no other person will ever run for office for personal power make them accountable for the laws they create and we will see grater freedom to the people
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CatDaddy Jack
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| I have an idea of starting a Political Action Committee that would fight to elect or persuade polititions to make common sense laws. I was thinking of doing this lately and was wondering if it sounds like a venture that could help. If so I would try to make laws that would force federal agents as well as local municipalities follow guidelines of interrogations and proffers such as video or audio recordings in order to be admissable in court, strict surveillance guidelines(including no warrantless surveillance), and other common sense efforts that would help guarantee civil liberties. I would like to have your feedback on this idea. |
I agree with all that 1moreround. Look for an addition (EDIT) in this frame later. I'd like to expand on the 'as to why'.
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geewash76
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Well, if such an effort were successful I believe it would have to be done at the state level in all 50 states. It would work better that way I believe because no new bureaucracy would have to be formed. It would simply make statements made without audio/video inadmissable in court. If such laws were made even federal agents would have to abide to the law in that state. I am definitely not for any other bureaucracies being formed, we all know what kind of things happen when the government gets a new bureaucracy, just look at the Patriot Act. I am sure I can think of a more appropriate name for it. |
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1moreround
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unfortunately bureaucracies are not created on purposes but by accident in the 30's we done away with prohibition and out of it we got the atf later known as the batfe see they grow when we put them in dark places what will they be next who knows with the advent of homeland security and patriot act it seem all rights are disappering or just being reinterpreted as privileges what you are talking about is hebeus corpus the right to meet you accuser ,in the name of homeland security we no longer have that right according to the government with the war on drugs we lost the forth amendment right all created by the DEA another bureaucracy you are right all needs to be done on a local level contact your congress critter tell him to restore the constitution or start looking for a new job what you want is when he sees your name in a email he gets sick thats when you know that you are making headway do not allow him to send you the normal fill in the blanks letter make him address your problem personally it's his/her job your paying them make them work and as you said if all in all 50 states would do this you would see a difference in 4 years aka. two congress election cycles
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geewash76
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Well, perhaps you are right about the bureaucracy, after all the road to hell is paved with good intentions and I* know that is pretty much what you are saying. I know everyone here thinks alike but how many people think like us? I know we must make change and I would want that change to be non-violent. What do any of us do to try and change the system? We should all try putting our minds together and make change. I am relatively new to this forum and much of this way of thinking but it seems to me we can make change in several ways even if it means to repeatedly to write our congressmen and senators to do it. I have already done these things myself but how do we put a spark to the movement? |
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