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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Hard Times = More Members???
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As gasoline approaches $4.00 a gallon, people are demanding more answers.  The bigger and fancier so - called "patriot sites" are generating a lot more traffic these days.

A number of the old MOG cadre are beginning to see the light and over the next couple of months I will be meeting with some of them with unity beng the immediate goal.

For myself, the issues remain the same:  worries about big government - New World Order / One World Government, the repeal of the Bill of Rights, weapon confiscations, assaults on private property, etc. remain the real culprits.

Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of bells and whistles on this site, so no way of enticing people to keep checking in.  We do have the BEST information on this site because some of us are constantly searching not only for new sites, but trying the products as well.  

And the people who find their way here will be the real deal.  The guys looking for entertainment in between video games will be busy shooting the sh!+ with their buddies on one of the social sites.  And we will be busy preparing.  When issues of importance come up, we will continue to DEBATE them.  "Debate thy cause with thy neighbor himself; and discover not a secret to another."  (Proverbs 25: 9)   Discussion and debate are the only way we are going to learn if some political gimmicks are actually the NWO controlling the way we think and a cheap psychological ploy to con us out of God given Liberties.

These are hard times and they will get worse... and we could reach the point of no return in a single day.  That would mean we would either have to unite and work together and fight back or live as slaves.  I'm at least marginally prepared.  And I'd like to be able to count on each of you out there.  

We're about to have the opportunity to meet others in our own area.  People are waking up.  I hope that you will consider that when I appeal to you to post here at least on a weekly basis and encourage others to come here and start the ball rolling.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject:
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Even as we try and pull-together,congress continues to play slight of hand with Gas prices,these filthy lying BASTARDS know exactly what they're doing..!
The cost of food is goingh sky high because some of you turds in the sheep herd are actually falling for that ETHENOL alternetive energy scare.
So the $ of CORN goes up cause farmer brown knows he can make more $ SELLING his product to the OIL.co instead of the Publix.
Now your faced with putting food on the table,or GAS in your tank,your Lot rent is due,your kidds are too proud or stubborn to tell you the lunch-rm lady stopped feeding them cause you owe her money,yet the welfare bastard continues to feed for pennies on the DOLLAR.And the politicians still want you to believe it ain't them..IT'S YOU!..WRONG!!
Get in here and lets talk about how WE'RE GONNA SEND THESE CROOKS TO JAIL OR THE GALLOWS...W/RESPECT OF COURSE!
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: good going Getaway Man
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Good going; Do you have suggestions for a start? Lets explore systems that were on the back burner years ago like thermal, solar, wind and hydro.  Even compressed air. Anything for reducing our dependency on fosel energies.

If anyone reading this has an idea to explore and want to share it in the interest of our country, lets get the ideas out and start working on them.
All accomplishments start with the first step!
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject:
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You and i talked about this before FreedomVet,and you already know,your suggestion about this Alternative Energy route is a good one ...but it's long-term  waaaay down the road solution..on the short-term we need to start drilling NOW.
Didn't we just kick a certain middle-east country's BUTT?!
Don't they have Oil fields?
And the Gas prices are only one of t/many semptoms to a Greater problem.Revamp the FEDERAL GOVT.
Start making'em feel the HEAT!! Twisted Evil
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject:
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GetawayMan wrote:

Didn't we just kick a certain middle-east country's BUTT?!
Don't they have Oil fields?


Maybe I'm confused Confused , but when we were going into that country, I remember something about it paying for it's self because of the oil.
HOW COME WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR IT????

Just got an email today from our lovely Congresswoman Heather Wilson, she's supporting some stuff to open up drilling Alaska and the gulf shelf (so she says) and build new refineries.
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject:
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Darned if you ain't right,they did say it would pay for it self.But they also said they'd find weapons of mass-destruction Embarassed .
But thanks for the heads-up on the congresswoman who says she for drilling now that she's said it,we gotta hold her to her word and makes sure she does more then that.
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject:
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I agree with Enforcer, unity as a goal is not only necessary but it's achievable at this point.  We gotta drill on our own soil now, and, with the restoration of a constitutional free market, good ol' american ingenuity will get an alternate and probably non-exhaustible fuel source in no time.

p.s.

ab the WMDs in Iraq thing... The way I look at it, we walked in the kitchen lookin' for a cake, and we found milk, flour, eggs and icing, but the UN inspectors we sent in didn't have the balls to call it a cake.  You can see how much we benefit from our membership in the UN... Not.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject:
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On the WMD issue:

I made a LOT of people mad, telling them that there were NO WMDS and lo and behold, Scott McClellan's new book, What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception will vindicate what I said about it BEFORE it started.  

Of course, people say McClellan is full of sour grapes, etc. but guys I told you that Bush was making a bet on hot air and propaganda.  And I warned that when he lost that it would be the end of Republican rule in Congress and the worst form of liberal would replace Bush AND that we would ultimately lose the war in Iraq.  That war was unconstitutional and it gave the Dems some really good leverage.  If Bush won, they could claim to have backed him up.  But, with Bush having been made an a55 of, they all say it was Bush's private war since they never voted for a war.

Gentlemen, I hate to say this, but we can have little impact on the energy problem in the short term.  HOWEVER, we could begin working together to make sure we are self sufficient and can live independently from the system... you know a garden, a few farm animals and some small in -home manufacturing businesses.  

I could suggest more threads in the forums here to deal with alternative fuels and so forth.  BTW, the XO, free_clear on the board has been working with a way to use hydrogen in his truck and is planning on marketing something to do with that... I'll check in with him when he gets off that tower and find out some specifics.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject:
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Here is an interesting site having to do with the alternate fuel source, haven't tried it myself but it should be interesting to see if it works. Supposedly the guy that made this thing is scheduled to meet before congress.

www.RunYourCarWithWater.com
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: thanks
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Thanks for the posting. I intend to try and find more information on the water conversion kit. There are ways we can reduce our dependency on fosel fuels. We don't have to be victems of greed,but we must seek solutions now!
Keep possible solutions and ideas coming in.
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject:
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If your going to use someone who used to be a member of the current BUSH administration to make your point,find someone better then some slow minded chicken-sh_t dweeb who counld'nt even defend himself against that old douche-bag Hag Helen Thomas.And was rarely in the loop which was why he did what he did..say whatever for financial gain.
Scott McCellan is not a good choice.
And you should'nt measure your success's on how many fellow patriot's you piss-off,but how many you inspire to do more for themselves,unless you've got the inside trac on the inner workings of DC,one doesn't know anymore then the other.Some of us are already prepared as one can be exploring ALL possibilities on energy,fuel isn't just  for the car ,it's used for cooking also so
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject:
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Getawayman wrote:

"If your going to use someone who used to be a member of the current BUSH administration to make your point,find someone better then some slow minded chicken-sh_t dweeb who counld'nt even defend himself against that old douche-bag Hag Helen..."

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I believe that you, Getawayman, were one of those who got mad at me several years ago when I accurately predicted that Bush's private war would fail given the circumstances in which the war was predicated.

In 2004, this is what the news media reported:

"No evidence was found to suggest Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons. U.N. officials believe the weapons were destroyed by U.N. inspectors or Iraqi officials in the years after the 1991 Gulf War."  

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-02-un-wmd_x.htm

This story came to us less than a year after the war started.  Then, David Kay, the same head inspector said this around the same time:   "I don't think they existed," Kay said.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0123-12.htm

Instead of looking at the media headlines and trying to reconcile my emotions with the headlines of the day from newswriters that we don't believe 99.999 percent of the time, I read the entire stories and then researched the facts behind them.

My conclusion, as you recall, was that the war was unconstitutional since the way to wage a war requires that Congress vote for and approve it.  Instead, the dems gave Bush carte blanche to wage a war on his own.  Had the war been a success, the dems could then tell their constitutency they voted for the war.  If it failed, they would blame Bush and remind us that Bush asked for authorization to conduct the war which Bush alone carried out.  Now, it has come to pass.

I don't know how to present it to you, Getawayman.  On the one hand, I could sit out these controversial periods and go along to get along.  And then the movement will have wasted five, ten or more years figuring out what we knew all along.  On the other hand, I can speak out when I see where we are wrong and hope that someone will be inspired by the fact that when I tell you I am 100 percent SURE, and my record should be the standard by which I am measured.

Today, the movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) is rushing to and fro, attempting to respond to every brush fire - never giving a thought to the big picture.  We know the excrement is about to intereact with the electric oscillating device, but beyond that, we are clueless.

Who is the enemy?  Is it Muslims, the New World Order, gangs or Barack Obama?  It could be the de facto (illegal) government in Washington Wonderland, District of Corruption.  How are we to respond to the enemy?  More pleas?  Hope that a far left administration will save us from ourselves?  Who are we to trust?  Maybe we can trust the Department of Homeland (IN) Security and their agenda of enforcing the repeal of the Bill of Rights via the so - called Patriot Act.  Isn't that where we are right about now?  The people realize that big government, tyrannical laws and regulations coupled with lying, self serving politicians  ARE the problem.  But, they continue to further empower that government on some misguided notion that if we build government bigger, they can save us from ourselves.

I have to apologize to Getawayman and all of you.  I was right in the past and almost have to crow about it, now that people in the KNOW are coming out of the woodwork and vindicating the positions I took years ago.  At the same time, I cannot go along to get along when it is obvious to me that the NWO is playing us like a fine tuned violin.  So the choice is simple:  Remain silent and let America be destroyed OR bring it to people's attention what is about to happen and warn you - even if exposing the real problem isn't popular.  

It is not an easy choice.  Remain silent and agree with the emotional led forces and LOSE or take my chances and speak the truth, hoping that some out there will heed the warning and act accordingly.  Reminding people of my predictions and their accuracy rate from the future is the only credibility I have at this juncture.  So, I have to tell you, Getawayman, it isn't as easy as you think.  And given the choices, I wonder what you would opt to do.
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject:
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YES you are    correct on the fact that i was one of those people who had a difference of a Opinon about the WAR,but your were dead ass wrong as to WHY!
I agreed that BUSH did not go thru the correct channels to wage WAR,but that was no reason to act as if SADDAM  wasn't a BAD GUY,WE SOLD'EM THE DAMN STUFF.
Do you know how small CHEMICALS WEAPONS can get??
But as you say..water under the bridge..helps us not one bit!
The movement needs a shot in the arm,and i believe the current situation is bringing things to a head leadership and calm heads shall prevail.
So don't worry about that apology crap your fine and all is well!!
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject:
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I'm sorry that people had a problem with me, but if you check the many links I give, I was proven to be 100 percent RIGHT.  The so called WMDs were NOT WMDs, but legit stuff that (you're right) we gave to the Iraqis.  And second point there:  Suppose you are right on both counts:  The U.S. gave Hussein those weapons and suppose they were WMDs.  The U.S. would be equally guilty with Sadaam Hussein.

But, let's get back on track.  We have to figure out:

A) How to resolve policy issues so that we can put these issues to rest and

B) How to work together and utilize the manpower we have
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